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Re: Microsoft and OpenAI end their exclusive and revenue-sharing deal

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> some scientifically qualifiable thing that is certain to happen any time now. If you present GPT 5.5 to me 2 years ago, I will call it AGI.

... until you actually, like, use it and find out all the limitations it has.

How is this relevant? Human General Intelligence has a lot of limitations as well and we have managed to do lots.

Re: Microsoft and OpenAI end their exclusive and revenue-sharing deal

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This agreement feels so friendly towards OpenAI that it's not obvious to me why Microsoft accepted this. I guess Microsoft just realized that the previous agreement was kneecapping OpenAI so much that the investment was at risk, especially with serious competition now coming from Anthropic?

I think MS wants OpenAI to fail so it can absorb it

Re: Microsoft and OpenAI end their exclusive and revenue-sharing deal

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It’s insane how they talk about AGI, like it was some scientifically qualifiable thing that is certain to happen any time now. When I have become the javelin Olympic Champion, I will buy a vegan ice cream to everyone with a HN account.

It’s pretty much a religious eschatology at this point

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Re: Microsoft and OpenAI end their exclusive and revenue-sharing deal

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> Microsoft will no longer pay a revenue share to OpenAI. I feel this looks like a nice thing to have given they remain the primary cloud provider. If Azure improves it's overall quality then I don't see why this ends up as a money printing press as long as OpenAI brings good models?

Does anyone expect azure quality to improve? Has it improved at all in the last 3 years? Does leadership at MS think it needs to improve? I doubt it

No and at this point tying yourself to azure is a strategic passive and anyone making such decisions should be held responsible for any service outage or degradation.

Re: Microsoft and OpenAI end their exclusive and revenue-sharing deal

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It’s insane how they talk about AGI, like it was some scientifically qualifiable thing that is certain to happen any time now. When I have become the javelin Olympic Champion, I will buy a vegan ice cream to everyone with a HN account.

> some scientifically qualifiable thing that is certain to happen any time now. If you present GPT 5.5 to me 2 years ago, I will call it AGI.

If you didn't call GPT 3.5 AGI I do not believe you when you claim you would have called 5.5 AGI.

Re: Microsoft and OpenAI end their exclusive and revenue-sharing deal

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The continued fleecing of investors.

Investors are typically people with surplus money to invest. Progress cannot be made without trial and error. So fleecing of investors for the greater good of humanity is something I shall allow.

A "surplus of money"? So people saving for retirement have a "surplus of money"? Basically if any money is standing still, it's a legitimate tactic to just...take it, in your mind.

Other people just call it "theft".

Re: Microsoft and OpenAI end their exclusive and revenue-sharing deal

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> They redefined AGI to be an economical thing Huh. Source? I mean, typical OpenAI bullshit, but would love to know how they defined it.

OpenAI’s mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence (AGI)—by which we mean highly autonomous systems that outperform humans at most economically valuable work—benefits all of humanity From: https://openai.com/charter/

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Re: Microsoft and OpenAI end their exclusive and revenue-sharing deal

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This agreement feels so friendly towards OpenAI that it's not obvious to me why Microsoft accepted this. I guess Microsoft just realized that the previous agreement was kneecapping OpenAI so much that the investment was at risk, especially with serious competition now coming from Anthropic?

Microsoft is a major shareholder of OpenAI, they don't want their investment to go to 0. You don't just take a loss on a multiple-digit billion investment.

I think you’re right about this deal. But it’s kind of funny to think back and realize that Microsoft actually has just written off multi-billion-dollar deals, several times in fact.
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