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Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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Post by JoBrad »

gzread wrote: post #119
0_-_0 wrote: post #97

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they are not inexplicably low -- any rational person sees that any low prices are one year intro deals that revert to excessive after the first year. We have always hated working with them, and have moved all clients to cloudflare.

You moved from the worst registrar to the second worst registrar. Cloudflare will call you up one day demanding an immediate payment of $150k and holding your domains hostage if you don't comply.

Cloudflare isn’t anywhere near being the second worst registrar. I’ve never had anything remotely similar to this occur, and I’ve had hundreds of domains with Cloudflare for years.

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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Post by helterskelter »

SamDc73 wrote: post #122

Relevant (for some reason though it shouldn’t be; GoDaddy’s track record is that bad.) Jan 2017: [Godaddy has issued at least 8850 SSL certificates without validating anything]( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47911780 ) Jan 2019: [GoDaddy injecting JavaScript into websites and how to stop it]( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18894792 ) Aug 2022: [Tell HN: Godaddy canceled my domain, gave me 2h to respond,…

Just search for GoDaddy stories on old Slashdot. I've known since I had my own computer that GoDaddy=NoDaddy.

It's funny, the only time I can recall a programmer describing something as sexist (towards women) in the early/mid 2000's was somebody describing GoDaddy's booth at a convention. That really stuck with me for some reason, lol.

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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Post by arcfour »

gzread wrote: post #160
arcfour wrote: post #42

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CloudFlare since they sell domains at cost and have really good DNS infrastructure with some free protection features. If the TLD isn't supported by them for registration then I'd just use their nameservers. Or Route53 if you're using AWS since that makes it easier to integrate with the rest of AWS and manage in IaC, and AWS also has robust network/DNS infrastructure. (I would say GCP if using GCP/Google Workspace, t…

I'd only use Cloudflare if I want my website to be held hostage with no possibility to migrate: https://robindev.substack.com/p/cloudflare-took-down-our-web...

I haven't had that experience at all with them before. I also don't put much stock in one off experiences from someone who is admittedly not in a situation that almost anyone else, much less someone registering their domains through GoDaddy currently, would find themselves in (i.e. operating an online casino and engaging in behavior that is very obviously a legal/ToS gray area at best).

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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Post by Silhouette »

vetrom wrote: post #153
Silhouette wrote: post #143

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Cloudflare will call you up one day demanding an immediate payment of $150k and holding your domains hostage if you don't comply. [citation very much needed]

https://robindev.substack.com/p/cloudflare-took-down-our-web... - one of a number of citations. To find more insert the terms [Cloudflare, hostage] into your favorite search engine.

Whatever was really happening in that incident it seems clear that it was not a simple matter of having registered some domains with Cloudflare and then getting a shakedown for $100k+ because of that.

If anyone else chooses to read the post then I suggest skimming the comments (that are mostly hidden by default) as well.

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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Post by crazygringo »

mihaaly wrote: post #56
crazygringo wrote: post #17

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It's literally the largest registrar in the world, by a large margin. When you're a business and want something reliable, picking the most popular provider is usually a strategy that works decently well. They're more likely to have established processes that work for all sorts of cases. That's what makes this particular story so egregious. Domains are a very funny business. I can't think of anything so crucial to bus…

> They're more likely to have established processes that work for all sorts of cases. In my experience the sentence is only correct this way: "They're more likely to have established processes for all sorts of cases" They have lots of clients. They have big opportunities to streamline support (which is a cost center). ... do you see where it leads? Read the OP, if not!

> do you see where it leads? Read the OP, if not!

Read the last paragraph in my comment.

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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Post by whh »

walrus01 wrote: post #120
Doohickey-d wrote: post #98

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They specialize in domains management for businesses who consider their domain to be _very_ important. Think Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Wikipedia... (all of those are listed as clients on the wiki page) As in "pay a lot of money", and we'll dedicate someone to your domain who makes sure that "giving a domain to a stranger without any documents" will _never_ happen.

a number of the largest companies that used to be 'clients' of markmonitor have now basically become their own domain registrars and have a direct relationship with ICANN. Amazon for instance. It's curious that google was one and has offloaded it to squarespace.

This is the best approach IMHO if you're a large, extremely valuable company registering a lot of domains.

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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Post by gzread »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #102
HotGarbage wrote: post #78

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Namecheap supports Palestinian genocide: https://neosmart.net/blog/namecheap-com-revokes-domain-hosti...

This is at the very least debatable. The site they took down contained multiple videos of animals being tortured and killed. Not all decisions are simple black and white.

Animals die too in a genocide. I don't understand your point here. Namecheap decided they should proactively police Namecheap customers for this, Namecheap should lose all its business as a result. Let Namecheap decide whether the income from Israel exceeds the income from all Namecheap customers.

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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Post by latchkey »

I wanted to buy a domain that was under GoDaddy's control.

We agreed on a price.

I sent the money (not cheap).

Weeks went by and then they emailed me to say that the person they thought owned the domain didn't actually own it.

Mind you, this is a domain that was hosted on their service.

The broker started to ignore me, since his job was done.

It took about 4-5 months and a huge amount of harassment at multiple support levels to get my money back.

Net negative for the internet.

Re: GoDaddy gave a domain to a stranger without any documentation

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Post by ceejayoz »

gzread wrote: post #160
arcfour wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CloudFlare since they sell domains at cost and have really good DNS infrastructure with some free protection features. If the TLD isn't supported by them for registration then I'd just use their nameservers. Or Route53 if you're using AWS since that makes it easier to integrate with the rest of AWS and manage in IaC, and AWS also has robust network/DNS infrastructure. (I would say GCP if using GCP/Google Workspace, t…

I'd only use Cloudflare if I want my website to be held hostage with no possibility to migrate: https://robindev.substack.com/p/cloudflare-took-down-our-web...

> One is that since we are a casino…

This is kinda buried but the whole scenario makes a lot more sense with that context.

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