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Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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There’s more to pollution than CO2. You’re polluting the neighborhood with smoke, which is bad for lungs. Maybe okay in a rural area if neighbors are far away.

People have been standing around fires since the dawn of fire. Live a little.

Does the person who downvoted me think we should ban fire-pits? Or grills? Does anyone seriously think that?

Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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post #100

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What a rude and shallow thing to say about a creative project.

It’s interesting how angry this makes some people.

I don't know about anyone else you might possibly be referring to, but I can say in my case I said it's worthless and stupid, I did not say I hate it or that it makes me angry.

"It's interesting" how some people can only interpret that as anger, or are willing to put their own words into someone else's mouth and then hold against them something they never said, while in the very act of critiquing them for lack of civilized behavior. I mean dude... chef's kiss.

A thing can simply be recognized and dumb and nothing more to it than that.

The only reason it's even worth saying is not actually just because a dumb thing exists, but because the dumb thing does not do what it purports to do that's all. This is not in fact an alternative to PCBs, nor even a path to eventually being one. We have had electronics on all manner of substrates including ceramics since forever, so I'm not merely saying that you can't put traces on ceramics. I'm saying this project as presented makes no sense. It's just a silly idea that doesn't actually provide enough function or value to be worth the materials.

It doesn't hurt anyone, and so there is nothing there to hate, merely dismiss.

"It's interesting" how angry pointing this out makes some people.

Let me guess the next question if I may be so bold: "Why go out of your way to say anything instead of just ignoring?"

Glad you asked ;) Why didn't the authors of this web page simply do their project without saying anything? They actively published their idea. I didn't go put a spy camera in their back yard and and then tell the world "hey look how dumb this is." They, of their own volition, went out of their way to actively tell the world "Hey look at what I did." I didn't even post it to HN here. It just turned up and was presented to me. Well I did look as they asked. And then I said what my asessment of what they showed. I didn't have to reply, but the authors diodn't have to publish either.

And still even this reaction to your comment (which is it's own seperate thing from the reaction to the original post) isn't anger. It is critique, bordering on ridicule by pointing out just how many different ways the remark doesn't hold water, but I didn't make the argument or the holes in it. As with the original post, it does not require anger to observe that something is dumb, nor even to say that you observe that it's dumb.

Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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post #157

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There is no personal attack here; other than, perhaps, one conducted by whoever keeps flagging my perfectly substantial comments. But since you said "please", sure, I'll think about it.

Obviously these terms are open to interpretation as well as cultural differences, but in terms of how we moderate HN, your GP comment certainly counts as a personal attack. You can't use phrases like "you're providing a bullshit", "someone calls out your bullshit", and so on, when addressing another person on HN. If you feel that someone's view is mistaken, you're welcome to respond to false information with true inf…

Obviously all terms are open to interpretation. Nevertheless, speech acts still have concrete intentions and meanings. Observe:

- "Cultural differences"

- Selective and intentionally ungrammatical quoting

- "You can't" used in place of "we would like you not to"

That sure don't look like the sort of honest misconception that can be resolved by good faith argument, pardner.

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