It seems the author conflates "pro work" and "work with text". For many people it is true, for many others it is not.
MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be
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Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The iPad is fantastic for, as the author points out, “reading the news and watching YouTube and playing games” > I think there’s just a kind of techie who desperately wishes they could do everything on an iPad, but really the machine meant for them is a lightweight MacBook (Neo or Air) Couldn't agree more. I am that person. I spent months deliberating before buying an 11" iPad (with keyboard). Used it for a week fo…
I’ve tried three or four times over the decades to make an iPad “work” and have never found anything to “do” with it that doesn’t quickly get subsumed by my phone (more easily available) or my laptop (better typing etc). It always ends up playing videos or the kids playing some silly game.
Mine never got used and I've bought 4 of them (I'm an idiot). First time they were relatively new. 2nd time I got a Pro thinking the pencil would make me use it for drawing. 3rd time was to read comics. Latest time was someone recommending to put on a treadmill at the gym for a movie.
In all cases, I used them 2-3 times and then never touched them again. Obviously some people love them. My mom loves and uses hers. I edit text too much and the select, copy and paste on touch screens is attrocious even today.
Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
> not productivity/coding! You don’t think a non-artist, non-coder can be productive on an iPad? Some jobs are heavily writing, reading, email/messaging, meetings, etc. Feel link those people can do quite well with an iPad, no?
Typing is subpar next to a Mac so by the time you put the case on it and are in similar size/weight class, for same/MORE money .. why bother with iPad ?
The single purpose nature of the iPad makes it pretty good for quite a few tasks. I find it much easier to stay focused. I’m not saying that justifies the cost, but seeing as I have one anyway, it’s what I use for a lot of my writing like tasks.
Of course, you can now multi window in iPadOS but the experience is awful enough that I don’t.
Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be
#164> No more keyboards or mouse support for iPads.
Pretty sure there are students at Uni using iPads with keyboard. It's smaller form factor than a laptop.
Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be
#165> No more keyboards or mouse support for iPads. Pretty sure there are students at Uni using iPads with keyboard. It's smaller form factor than a laptop.
The iPad + keyboard combo is typically as heavy or even heavier than a laptop. It's certainly more expensive and restrictive. I have agree with the author's thesis here
Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be
#166> No more keyboards or mouse support for iPads. Pretty sure there are students at Uni using iPads with keyboard. It's smaller form factor than a laptop.
But heavier than a clamshell laptop.
And just barely smaller than netbooks.
That said, I guess to everyone born after 2000 a PC is considered kaputt if it does not have touch input.
Even my 1994 gf tries to touch every display to see if it is directly usable, or needs an obscure pointer to be moved and click to be found either on keys or tap or press.
Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be
#167I've used Mac for 20 years and iPad on&off for 10 years.. largely I agree with Craig. Touch on MacOS is basically useless, you won't realize this until you try using an iPad like a MacBook for an extended period of time. Reaching up from keyboard/trackpad to touch the screen quickly gets fatiguing. It is not ergonomic. The iPad is meant to be used in touch mode while in your hands generally. If they were brave they'd…
The truth is that the moment Apple offers a touch screen on macOS, the Mac cult faithful will hail the day as a breakthrough in innovation. I suggest that you watch people in cafes, offices, and libraries (especially young people) use Windows-based touchscreen-equipped laptops. There's nothing that "sucks" or is "useless" about having the additional option of a touch interface on a laptop. You don't even have to use…
> The truth is that the moment Apple offers a touch screen on macOS, the Mac cult faithful will hail the day as a breakthrough in innovation.
Did they do it when Apple offered the touch bar? Or did annoying nerds complain so much that Apple finally removed this pretty cool feature?
Anybody who thinks about it for a few minutes will realize that any touch interface on a laptop has to be on the bottom part and not on the screen to be great. The touch bar was an attempt, and could have been very useful. Maybe having the entire keyboard be a touch interface could be something, like BlackBerry did?
Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be
#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's no pen input on a Mac, it's only really usable in one orientation and so sucks for reading more than a page or two of a PDF. Tablets are WAY more flexible in form factor. Apple unfortunately cripples the software, but I'd rather have a device that's 100% better at pen input and bunch of tasks that's 30% worse at typing.
Instead of doing creative work on the iPad, it should really be used as an input device for the mac.
How do you mean? The entire iPad? Well this sucks because now you're carrying around an entire laptop and a tablet. Or do you mean using a pen with the Mac? Then it would need fundamental changes to use it well. Using a pen on a traditional laptop sucks more than a touchscreen on a traditional laptop. You need a really really good hinge to have it not be impacted by your arm, or you're forced to awkwardly hover and use minimal pressure. Bare minimum they'd have to add a 180 degree hinge so it can lie flat, or really a 360 one ideally.
With a tablet you get more freedom, not every task needs a real keyboard and sometimes even if it does it's better not attached to the device in wrong orientation.
Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be
#169The elephant in the room is something else. iPhones need desktop mode. Your apps, your data. USB-C screen + Bluetooth keyboard/mouse. Running like iPadOS or even macOS.
No real person wants that. A bunch of hackers want it, so that they can try it a couple of times as a fun side project and then never use it again in their life.
Re: MacBook Neo and how the iPad should be
#170The elephant in the room is something else. iPhones need desktop mode. Your apps, your data. USB-C screen + Bluetooth keyboard/mouse. Running like iPadOS or even macOS.
No real person wants that. A bunch of hackers want it, so that they can try it a couple of times as a fun side project and then never use it again in their life.
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