I’ve been seeing this sort of response more and more lately. :(
You will. Especially as it becomes more and more uncomfortable for people as they are forced to try to rationalize away their part in all of this. Don't think of it necessarily as a cop-out, but a sign that the person at least has either A) working empathy circuits and isn't likely the sort to focus on, or B) has at least started to see the tide is changing and has had to recalibrate their stance formerly accommodati…
While I can understand the sentiment, it should be expressed with less vulgarity, and frankly, workers should show more solidarity to one another, not because of “deserving it” or not, but simply because it’s the only way out of the pit they put us in. Otherwise we are forever dragging each other back in.
Ghislaine Maxwell is a woman. A fitting proxy for this whole situation, when you realize that she's the only person (so far) to have been put in jail over this whole "powerful men abusing women" situation.
>Ghislaine Maxwell is a woman. OK, and so what if she's a woman? You think women can't be evil to commit heinous crimes or what? Evil doesn't do gender discrimination. >she's the only person to have been put in jail over this whole "powerful men abusing women" situation. Well she's was the one responsible for finding and pimping out underage girls to those "powerful men" meaning she's the one to get caught red handed…
>> Ghislaine Maxwell is a woman.
> OK, and so what if she's a woman? You think women can't be evil to commit heinous crimes or what? Evil doesn't do gender discrimination.
I struggle to imagine how you could have missed my point more.
I have no problem with her being in jail, I have a problem with only her being in jail.
This article is just a summary of other articles. Specifically these two more detailed ones: https://www.itnews.com.au/news/meta-to-start-capturing-emplo... https://www.businessinsider.com/meta-new-ai-tool-tracks-staf...
> "This makes me super uncomfortable. How do we opt out?" was the top-rated comment in response to the internal announcement, according to a post on Meta's internal workplace communications site seen by Business Insider." Have people lost their spine? seriously, quit your job. this is insane. why are americans putting up with this bullshit?
Americans have, in my lifetime, stopped being adults. Everyone is a child, everyone asks permission for everything. Everyone takes the answer they receive as the word of their chosen god.
We are collectively incapacitated by the soft glow of our smartphones. This was intentional. This community made these devices. This community should bear the brunt of the backlash. And likewise, the engineers at Facebook should be actively surveilled for the rest of their days as punishment.
This article is just a summary of other articles. Specifically these two more detailed ones: https://www.itnews.com.au/news/meta-to-start-capturing-emplo... https://www.businessinsider.com/meta-new-ai-tool-tracks-staf...
> "This makes me super uncomfortable. How do we opt out?" was the top-rated comment in response to the internal announcement, according to a post on Meta's internal workplace communications site seen by Business Insider." Have people lost their spine? seriously, quit your job. this is insane. why are americans putting up with this bullshit?
Right on. Meta employees, fuck you for building the surveillance state we live in today. You are the fucking scourge and death of the 2000s internet. Eat shit, I care not for your "privacy concerns."
While I can understand the sentiment, it should be expressed with less vulgarity, and frankly, workers should show more solidarity to one another, not because of “deserving it” or not, but simply because it’s the only way out of the pit they put us in. Otherwise we are forever dragging each other back in.
A retreat into false propriety because you're offended by vulgarity is not the answer. The vulgarity is meant to provoke a response from people who aren't responding.
You must understand that the hyperscalers all optimize for compliant employees in the hiring process. You cannot have solidarity with bootlickers, they don't deserve our support because they fucked the rest of us to begin with to further their own gains. Yes, the rest of us need to claw our way out of the pit. But each of these engineers now whining about the world they created now applying to them? Kick them back in the pit.
Exactly. It’s the same defeatist attitude people who get an extra three months of pay to train their Eastern European or Indian replacements. They will gladly take the three months pay to train a replacement. I’d quit on the spot. Let them figure it out.
Practically speaking, the person who stays has three months salary, plus severance and then unemployment. The person who quits loses their entire income stream immediately. Do you think your small act of defiance has a bigger impact on you, or on the company? Now imagine you have a family at home that depends on your income and do the math again.
If people affected banded together and all defied the company, the company would find itself in a difficult situation. If the then became standard procedure for workers affected by offshoring, companies would hesitate to do this. It would have to be much more organic and would have diminished and drawn out impact on workers. Yes companies could open foreign offices, etc., but it’s more work and fewer companies would consider the option. Today then simply say “we’re transitioning network and security to an ATT, Verizon, etc. organization based in (some low COL geography).” If companies had had pushback over the last 25 years, they’d be less likely to consider the option.
Practically speaking, the person who stays has three months salary, plus severance and then unemployment. The person who quits loses their entire income stream immediately. Do you think your small act of defiance has a bigger impact on you, or on the company? Now imagine you have a family at home that depends on your income and do the math again.
If people affected banded together and all defied the company, the company would find itself in a difficult situation. If the then became standard procedure for workers affected by offshoring, companies would hesitate to do this. It would have to be much more organic and would have diminished and drawn out impact on workers. Yes companies could open foreign offices, etc., but it’s more work and fewer companies would…
How about voting against offshoring? That way I don’t have to have an uncomfortable showdown with my employer, and every working person benefits.
If people affected banded together and all defied the company, the company would find itself in a difficult situation. If the then became standard procedure for workers affected by offshoring, companies would hesitate to do this. It would have to be much more organic and would have diminished and drawn out impact on workers. Yes companies could open foreign offices, etc., but it’s more work and fewer companies would…
How about voting against offshoring? That way I don’t have to have an uncomfortable showdown with my employer, and every working person benefits.
Yes, but that ship sailed. Bernie Sanders used to be for the American worker. He used to block re-settling refugees in his state. Nowadays even he doesn't care to curb immigration or off-shoring. Some people in the Trump admin make motions about curbing some (unnecessary legal) immigration (ala Canada and Australia -vetting for skills needed). Very few want to curb offshoring. Both Democrats and Republicans monetarily benefit from offshoring and increasing competition for American workers. Elon pretends his companies could not run without more imported workers --sure, I get it, you don't want to bother to train a capable local population, much of which is descended from relatively recent immigrants.
While I can understand the sentiment, it should be expressed with less vulgarity, and frankly, workers should show more solidarity to one another, not because of “deserving it” or not, but simply because it’s the only way out of the pit they put us in. Otherwise we are forever dragging each other back in.
A retreat into false propriety because you're offended by vulgarity is not the answer. The vulgarity is meant to provoke a response from people who aren't responding . You must understand that the hyperscalers all optimize for compliant employees in the hiring process. You cannot have solidarity with bootlickers , they don't deserve our support because they fucked the rest of us to begin with to further their own gai…