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Re: I've sold out

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Post by raincole »

NoahZuniga wrote: post #90
raincole wrote: post #82

Mario having to write this many words to justify this decision alone is a red flag already. The fact I can't understand what Earendil is after reading this many words is an even bigger red flag. But who am I to judge? If I made a project as popular as pi I'd sell out so fast.

There is variation in how comfortable someone is with the idea of "selling out". It seems to me that Mario is less comfortable than many other people in the AI space. How comfortable someone is with the idea of selling out doesn't really seem like a good signal for how bad something is. If Mario had instead just written: "I'm excited to work on the future of PI at Palantir." and nothing else, clearly this is worse? >…

> "I'm excited to work on the future of PI at Palantir." and nothing else, clearly this is worse?

Yeah, but mainly just because what Palantir is.

It would be better if he just told us what part of the future pi tool chain would be proprietary, but from the article it seems that they haven't even decided on that, so I don't know what to make of this.

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Post by infecto »

jmaw wrote: post #147
infecto wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenCode is pretty terrible imo. Not very privacy minded.

I've been considering playing around with opencode. Can you expand on what you mean by this?

The harness or the tool is ok but all the defaults as part of the paid pieces of the tool have really bad privacy decisions. So they offer Zen as a pay as you use credit system with access to the models they think work best with the harness. Their own stealth model in it along with a number of the leading new models are always-on sharing data for training purposes. They don’t make this immediately obvious either you have to click through links on their website to see the breakdown.

I am not usually super privacy minded but if you already made it nonobvious this is happening I don’t really trust the underlying tool.

https://opencode.ai/docs/zen/#privacy

Above is the link. The front page says your privacy is important and says they don’t do training on your data except for the following exceptions which links to this page. Then even their own model is training on your data except there is no opt out. So if you pay for zen and you select one of these models in the tool you have no clue it’s auto training on your data.

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Post by drtse4 »

philipwhiuk wrote: post #134

Can someone explain what Earendil and Lefos are? The Lefos site immediately throws up a sign in page. The Earendil site just talks about values.

Earendil is the company, Lefos the first product, an agent that has email as primary interface.

Re: I've sold out

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Post by sunaookami »

orojackson wrote: post #99
loveparade wrote: post #58

Understandable, I'd probably do the same in his position. Still sucks, we've seen this pattern a thousands times before and what happens next is pretty obvious. I was prototyping something with pi under the hood for a personal project, going to switch off it now.

I suggest you make yourself a private fork of Pi so that you don't have to be beholden to Mario and his not-so-new clique. Create a private repo in GitHub first, then do a bare Git clone of https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono.git (ideally do it before the original repo gets moved to Earendil's GitHub org). git clone --bare https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono.git then push that bare clone up to your private repo: git…

I have a private Gitea exactly for stuff like that and Gitea can mirror GitHub repos out of the box and keep it in sync (and it's Git so you can always revert).

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Post by CharlieDigital »

ontouchstart wrote: post #153
karolist wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

can you link to that gist? I'd be interested to read through it

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47600817

My reading of that isn't that the harness matters so much as the overall platform environment that agents operate in and the approach taken by the team.

    > Before Blitzy starts any work on code generation, the platform launches collaborative agents to deeply analyze the repository – mapping dependencies, understanding conventions, and capturing domain logic. This documentation process can take hours or days. When prompted to add a feature, refactor code or fix bugs, Blitzy replies with a highly detailed technical specification.
The same approach could be taken with any harness with a skill to perform this step first before starting work.

Re: I've sold out

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Post by xg15 »

mijoharas wrote: post #145
xg15 wrote: post #36

In light of all the stuff about Thiel and friends, I'd really stay away from Tolkien/Middle-Earth themed startup names for now...

Ooooh. I didn't know palantir was a tolkien thing[0] until just now! Oh god, that was my first guess but thought some more and it turns out that anduril is too[1]. (I was similarly unaware) Anything else I missed? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palant%C3%ADr [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anduril

The irony is that "technology" in LoTR (both the arcane, Elvish variant and the more conventional "industrial" variant) always occurs either in cautionary tales or straight up as tools of evil.

E.g. the "Palantíri" were devices for long-distance communication and observation from an ancient civilization - which eventually got captured and corrupted by Sauron and turned into mind control / propaganda devices.

The depiction of the One Ring, is of course well known.

Tolkien himself also had some personal experiences with landscape destruction through industrialisation and experienced WWI, the "first industrialized war" firsthand, which I think gave him a profoundly negative outlook on technology.

Given all this, I find it sort of interesting that so many "Techies" are diehard fans of him, not to mention even naming startups after his works.

Torment Nexus goes again...

(There is probably some hypocrisy in his works, in the sense that only "modern" or "magical" technology gets that treatment. Everything at medieval or pre-medieval level is fine)

Re: I've sold out

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Post by mrshu »

nswizzle31 wrote: post #111

> In May, the three of us ended up at Peter's flat in Vienna and built our first vibe slopped project together: VibeTunnel. May be overthinking this but I'm geniunely curious how that was done practically speaking? Standard git branch and merge or everyone sitting around deciding what prompt to write?

Well, some of the original commits are indeed quite telling!

https://github.com/amantus-ai/vibetunnel/commits/main/?after...

Re: I've sold out

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Post by sceptic123 »

wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #32

Such an indirect writing style. I know people hate LLM writing but at least it gets to the point and gives some background context. I have no idea what this guy is talking about. It's an article aimed at people who know him personally, it seems.

You're absolutely right ... it's strange that someone would post a personal message about something on their personal blog.

Re: I've sold out

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Post by unsupp0rted »

colesantiago wrote: post #42
unsupp0rted wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it takes years to get paradigm-shifting tech off the ground. You need hyper-obsessive nerds (the kind who were hyper-obsessive in school about D&D and LotR) to bring it to fruition. The non-LotR namers give up early.

This makes absolutely no sense.

To be fair it makes some sense. Otherwise where do you get Anduril?
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