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both wars are equally unjustified, but the US has lost what, 20 people per hour of his war.
Russia is actually gaining people in this war. The occupied territory they intend to keep has a prewar population of 10M.
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> American people are already getting flogged when they buy fuel and groceries No, we're not. It's bad. But it's nothing compared to Russia.
Not as bad as Russia... damning with faint praise, aren't we?
No. I'm calling out bullshit. If someone says Bob is a terrorist, and I say no, Bob is not a terrorist, I'm not damning Bob "with faint praise" by calling out a nonsense comparison.
There is plenty bad America is doing and threatening in this war. We don't need word games to discuss them adultly.
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> Why not go back to 1953? Overthrowing another country's elected government is no more conscionable under international law Nobody said you can't. I don't think the point is undermined. Neither the U.S. nor Iran have shown any consistent affection for international law.
This "both sides" game does not carry much weight when one side, the US and Britain, made the bad faith move on Iran first. Stubbing one's toe and complaining "both sides" - the pebble and me. Complaining I am being hit back because I hit first, does not elicit support. Especially, when one is less than forthcoming about who made the move on a sovereign country first. Made a move just because that country had resourc…
Trying to disentangle who did what first in the Middle East is a fool's errand. Practically any living human can trace descendence to someone who was harmed by any other group in that region because that's where the first civilisation was born and almost every one after it had cause for crossroads.
> Complaining I am being hit back because I hit first, does not elicit support
If one dude stabs another, they're at fault. If that dude stabs the first one back, I'm sympathetic to their cause of action but not how they prosecuted it.
> Norway nationalised it's oil, Iran had equal sovereign right to do so
If Iran nationalised its oil and then didn't go on a vendetta against Israel, together with various spawned proxy groups dotting the region, every one of their neighbors wouldn't be standing by today while they get pummeled.
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#165Wait, are stargate data centers a real thing? I thought it was a financial/political vehicle to pump the markets and kick the can down the road.
I'm of the opinion that while e.g. xAI is in a pump game, OpenAI is at least trying to make money. But even if they're not, even if the DCs are as you say "a financial/political vehicle to pump the markets", they can still be physically real things.
That said, I have no idea how close to complete the Stargate UAE site is.
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> there's the whole scale thing Sort of? I don't think that's really how war crimes work. Unless we're objectively in eye-for-an-eye territory, in which case we're not really talking about international law anymore. (To be clear, I think everyone talking about international law in this conflict is posturing. We've been collectively setting new norms for years, and between Russia, China and America, the rules seem to…
It doesn't matter. Killing 34 something children like Hamas did vs 20 000 something children like Israel did in the same conflict. Or threatening some water facility in a country with functioning air defense vs threatening entire population of 92 million with complete anihilation ("A whole civilization will die tonight" like Trump just said on behalf of all americans - credible threat from a nuclear superpower with e…
That's fair. When I see conflicts like this, I tend to sit back and observe. There are enough conflicts on the planet where both sides are not being bastards, and where the diffences in scale of bastardly doesn't clearly map to differences in capability (versus will).
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Come on now, don't be shy, say what's on your mind. Who are "these people"? Ukrainians, the ones who live in Ukraine? The only country in the world with a "the" in front is The Gambia, using The in front of Ukraine is doing it for no reason other than to show your disrespect for them, but then - why even pretend to have a civilized discussion? Just say whatever thing you have on your mind instead of speaking in riddl…
I bet you don't even know who Stepan Bandera was. I bet you don't even know the origins of the term "The Ukraine."
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#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
both wars are equally unjustified, but the US has lost what, 20 people per hour of his war.
Ukraine didn't sponsor terrorist organizations around the world.
Also: Azov battalion.
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The American people are already getting flogged when they buy fuel and groceries. The longer this war continues the worse it will get. Nonetheless, the American people themselves are mostly safe at home, the precedent for Iran launching any sort of attacks against the American homeland is basically nonexistent. Even sending terror cells, you'd think Iran would be on this for how often their western critics accuse the…
> American people are already getting flogged when they buy fuel and groceries No, we're not. It's bad. But it's nothing compared to Russia.
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
The American people are already getting flogged when they buy fuel and groceries. The longer this war continues the worse it will get. Nonetheless, the American people themselves are mostly safe at home, the precedent for Iran launching any sort of attacks against the American homeland is basically nonexistent. Even sending terror cells, you'd think Iran would be on this for how often their western critics accuse the…
Downvotes from ziofascists are always a great reward. Let's go for some more, do tell me, where have been the Iranian terror cells in America? We know the US funded terror cells in Iran, the president bragged amount arming groups in Iran to overthrow the government. When has Iran done this to America? It hasn't happened. The narrative of Iran being a funder of terrorism is essentially bullshit, particularly in relati…
It's a fools errand, especially on Hypocrisy News, a politer version of Reddit.