Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz • Hacker News Board

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by YZF » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 7:40 PM UTC

alephnerd wrote: post #64

tarkin2 wrote: post #60

Israel recently refused to buy more French military equipment, and France's relations with Israel is at a low; I'm wondering it was the reason the French vessel was allowed through.

France hasn't bought Israeli weapons systems and vice versa for years, so it's just a quick populist win with 0 practical implications either way. That said, French and Israeli vendors like Thales, IAI, Dassault, Rafael, Elbit, etc still collaborate closely becuase they are both OEMs, vendors, and JV partners in Indian defense deals that integrate both into Indian weapons systems - especially as both are integrated (…

I think there has been some low volume defense trade in both directions.

What some people seem to forget is that France and Israel also compete over some of the same defense deals. There was these incidents where France banned Israeli companies from some defense shows:

https://www.politico.eu/article/france-bans-israeli-companie...

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250616-france-blocks...

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by simgt » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 7:40 PM UTC

Shank wrote: post #42

Jensson wrote: post #15

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> The current Japanese leader is also a war mongerer, so I'd bet they also threatened to enter the war on USA's side if their ships weren't allowed to pass. The amount of misinformation foreign people have about Takaichi-san is staggering. She is by no means a "war mongerer" and the Japanese constitution has clear limits that prevent Japan from doing virtually anything. The reason why Japan can get a pass is because…

The most an average person in the west knows about Takaichi is that she "said" Japan would go to war with China for Taiwan. That's of course not true, but the person you're replying to also thinks Spain is on Iran's side. They are clearly misinformed or lying to fit their narrative.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by postsantum » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 7:40 PM UTC

Matl wrote: post #66

jghn wrote: post #5

Last week the US stated they didn't need any of the oil, and that if other countries wanted it they could go figure it out themselves. Looks like they have. And yet the US is now back to threatening Iran if they don't open up the oil.

Israel wants to completely destroy Iran so than no one would be willing to in any way challenge its occupation of Palestine, nor its ambition to expand into Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt and beyond. Then there's an element of extremist Christian ideology from Pete H. etc. Hormuz has little to do with it, it's just an excuse to destroy Iran. Trump has been convinced that the Iranians are after him, plus there's the Ep…

The oil narrative is what worked after Iraq war and I am afraid it will work now

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by 54agfvb » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 7:41 PM UTC

That is a good move from Iran. The EU is tired of US induced wars, tired of Greenland threats and just wants to focus on its economy.

In a US war you always have to ask yourself if you do exactly what the US wants in secret. Here it could very well be that the Gulf monarchies are deliberately weakened and the EU/Japan/China are cut off from fossil fuels, so they are even more dependent on the US.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by petre » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 7:42 PM UTC

maratc wrote: post #51

watwut wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are on about now? France explicitely and vocally refused to enter the war. That is why their tanker passed.

France also joined China and Russia in blocking Bahreini resolution that would authorise "all defensive means necessary" to protect commercial shipping in the strait. That is why their tanker passed.

All defensive means can mean anything. Like a military escort that would shoot back at Iran in case of an attack, which amounts to further escalation.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by vntok » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 7:42 PM UTC

Jensson wrote: post #57

watwut wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spanish tankers are going through. Filipinian and Indian too. Again, what are you on about. France was one of 3 countries that literally blocked UN resolution about opening straight by force. And president repeatedly called it "impossible". You read weird news if you thing "a threat" of anything is making iran to let ships pass. Money and noninvolvement do.

> Spanish tankers are going through No they are not, this French ship was the first European tanker going through.

"X is doing B" and "Y was the first to do B" can both be true at the same time.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by simgt » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 7:46 PM UTC

e2le wrote: post #16

jghn wrote: post #5

Last week the US stated they didn't need any of the oil, and that if other countries wanted it they could go figure it out themselves. Looks like they have. And yet the US is now back to threatening Iran if they don't open up the oil.

We are 1 Year and 3 months into this current administration, 2 years and 9 months remain. Despite the short period in office, so much damage and chaos has being caused by one individual and the sycophants who surround him. It is a fact that the reputation of the USA has being damaged, perhaps not repairable for decades or more. This will have consequences. Perhaps, I hope, Americans will take action to save the democ…

How many people voted for that "one individual causing chaos" again? 70 million? He's also backed by billionaires and an administration that seems to be just as unhinged. It's not one person causing chaos, it's a whole country with its violent culture. The scale changed slightly, but it's also nothing new.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by nozzlegear » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 7:46 PM UTC

aurareturn wrote: post #133

nozzlegear wrote: post #112

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Horseshoe theory is real, but much like Seattle, SF's biggest problem is politically active NIMBYs (and SF has more than most places). Democrats and Republicans both have NIMBYs, it transcends political boundaries.

NIMBYs aren't causing homeless problems.

"I don't want affordable apartments or housing in my backyard because it lowers my property value" is a pretty clear amplifier of homelessness.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by petre » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 7:48 PM UTC

KellyCriterion wrote: post #142

e2le wrote: post #16

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We are 1 Year and 3 months into this current administration, 2 years and 9 months remain. Despite the short period in office, so much damage and chaos has being caused by one individual and the sycophants who surround him. It is a fact that the reputation of the USA has being damaged, perhaps not repairable for decades or more. This will have consequences. Perhaps, I hope, Americans will take action to save the democ…

> take action to save the democratic Im beting 1000 USD that Trump comes up with whatever story/issue/incident to "manipulate" all upcoming elections to his favour

If the doesn't turn up as the first US president to actually be impeached. You've got other two who got assasinated. The right to bear arms mskes that sort of thing a bit easier than impeachment.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by sieste » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 7:48 PM UTC

Jensson wrote: post #106

throw310822 wrote: post #87

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You mistake for competence his greed and that of those who surround him. I don't think there was a plan to profit from the disaster; rather, they're so incompetent that they even lack the basic self-control to avoid publicly taking advantage of the mess they unwillingly caused, however bad and dangerous that might be.

I imagine Trump wanted to do some fun new things when he is old and will soon die. Its not many who get to experience what it feels like to start a war and kill world leaders, and when you are gonna die soon anyway why not?

I think this is the correct lense. He's a malignant narcissist on his way out, with absolutely nobody to stop him.

I'm genuinely worried that he secretly wants to go down in history as the crazy guy who set the oil fields on fire and dropped a nuke on Tehran or something.