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Qwen3.6-Plus: Towards real world agents
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Re: Qwen3.6-Plus: Towards real world agents
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whereas I as a Canadian am absolutely eager to see a serious competitor from a rival to the US because sending money south to Anthropic and OpenAI who think it's ok to spy on (or worse) their non-American customers, and are headquartered in a country that is trying to crush my country's economy, interfere in our domestic politics, and put us out of work and making threats on political allies. I'd prefer them to be op…
You're giving up the rest of your country to a geopolitical rival from a separate region, in a separate hemisphere with smiling expansionist goals, even allowing armed Chinese security to protect Chinese installations in country. So why not give the rest of your country to China. It will help them get a good flank on the USA such that even when that temporarily embarrassed country gets a leader you, and the rest of t…
"Temporarily embarassed" doesn't even begin to describe what's happening down there.
We have an American neighbour actively funding and amplifying a formerly extremely fringe separatist movement in Alberta -- shades of the Donbas, North American edition --and a US "ambassador" who has the behaviour of a 4chan troll.
The bridge has been blown up. Americans might think they are a midterm election away from salvation, but we're on the whole not so naive.
Re: Qwen3.6-Plus: Towards real world agents
#163Looking forward to when this gets on Bedrock. I built an app with a niche AI agent and to this point only Sonnet is really good enough for our use case, but its expensive!
Try using Grok 4.1 reasoning. It's crazy cheap, and really it's not that bad.
Sure, it might try to subtly steer you towards fascism, but other than that, it's great.
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#164I've gone through about 500M tokens on this model already. They've got some free inferencing options (such as on openrouter) ... $0 is hard to beat and it's creating not-crap.
Re: Qwen3.6-Plus: Towards real world agents
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
> not an open weight model like they’ve become known for. Right, they state that they'll release "smaller" variants openly at some point, with few details as to what that means. Will there be a ~300B variant as with Qwen 3.5? The blog post doesn't say.
As a publicity stunt, releasing a 300B open model is pretty smart. You can talk about its strong performance and it being “open” and “available,” but it’s so large that most people can’t use it themselves and might try out the cloud-based offering.
There are plenty of model providers that can serve them though at cheaper prices and cannibalize Alibaba revenue.
Re: Qwen3.6-Plus: Towards real world agents
#16623/25 on my agentic benchmark for the free version on OpenRouter. That's a great score - only 4 models have ever scored higher.
But there are open models that also score 23/25 including Qwen 3.5 27B.
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#167Has anybody done serious agentic work (e.g. using a CLI harness or simmilar) with 3.5 Plus/3.0 Max and such? How does it compare against Opus with Claude Code? I've used the chat quite a bit and I can't say at this point.
Re: Qwen3.6-Plus: Towards real world agents
#168I've gone through about 500M tokens on this model already. They've got some free inferencing options (such as on openrouter) ... $0 is hard to beat and it's creating not-crap.
How can it be free? What do you mean?
EDIT: Ah, I see. Some kind of promotion. Pretty cool.
Re: Qwen3.6-Plus: Towards real world agents
#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not interested in adopting an inferior closed source weight from a geopolitical rival. The open source weights argument was the one thing China had going and that I was seriously cheering them on for. They could have been our saviors and disrupted the US tech giants - and if it was open, I'd have welcomed it. Now they show their true colors. They want to train models on our engineering to replace us, while simult…
Whereas I as a Canadian am absolutely eager to see a serious competitor from a rival to the US because sending money south to Anthropic and OpenAI who think it's ok to spy on (or worse) their non-American customers, and are headquartered in a country that is trying to crush my country's economy, interfere in our domestic politics, and put us out of work and making threats on political allies. I'd prefer them to be op…
I've been using z.ai and codex latest models since last September.
Each release has been an improvement.
codex handles longer sessions but the quality seems to decline and it tends to over engineer and lose focus. It will happily add slop on top of slop...which may pass immediate tests of "code works" but doesn't pass my criteria of "code as craft"
I'm using z.ai GLM with opencode. It's obvious when GLM loses its mind when the session gets too long.
I've been using AI to support programming for around 3 years now. The models have gotten amazing. However, unless there is a significant breakthrough I have determined that it's best for me to focus on short sessions.
I a) organize my work, b) improve my AGENTS.md, ensure source has appropriate comments to guide the models to the patterns and separation of concerns c) use shorter sessions d) review and test without AI. This approach means I still own my code. The AI is just an assistant.
With this approach GLM-5.1 is an excellent model. I never run out of token allotment on z.ai or codex plans. At this point, I only keep my OpenAI subscription as the ChatGPT desktop app is excellent at long web research tasks and I get codex with it.
Re: Qwen3.6-Plus: Towards real world agents
#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
In case you don't know, Gemini 2.5 flash is hosted on DeepInfra. They also have 1.5 flash but not 2.0 flash. I have no affiliation with DeepInfra. I use them, because they host open-source models that are good.
Thanks. Yeah, for now we're moving to 3.1 flash lite as that's the new cheapest at $.25/1M and is also still "good enough". 2.5 flash is more expensive at $.30/1M (looks like Deep Infra charges the same as GCP/VertexAI for it). I might check them out for Gemma though. We benchmarked Gemma2 when that came out and it wasn't remotely usable for us largely because the context window was way too small. It looks like 3 or…
Xiaomi's mimo-v2-flash is great if you care about speed and performance - it's 1/10 the price of Gemini 3.1 Flash Lite and faster (on OpenRouter).
GCP does server other non-Google models, but I'm not sure what they have other than Anthropic models. I don't think Haiku is a great model though.