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Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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Who would voluntarily do business with a company that does this? Not me.

Eventually, when all of them do this (and they will be effectively forced to in order to remain competitive), then we will not have a choice.

I will make burgers myself. I take this approach with many things and services without great suppliers anyway. And I don't care if it's suboptimal because, in the long run, I'll have better skills and be protected from exactly this trend.

Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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I've used Claude Max awhile now, and I usually only get to around 50% usage in a 4/5hr block (using medium effort). Yesterday, I switched from high -> medium effort using the /model command, but afterwards it still felt like I was burning through tokens at the high effort rate.

Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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It seems pretty clear there is some sort of bug that only some people are experiencing (or, very cynically, perhaps an A/B test). My usage hasn't seemed to change much in the past few days, but then I see reports where people are hitting limits after one or two prompts. I doubt that could be user error or new limits.

Anthropic has said they are investigating. https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1s7zgj0/investiga...

Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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I've found a lot of people are almost belligerently pro-Claude. They refuse to consider other providers or agents, and won't consider using any model than the latest Opus. The most common reasons I hear are 1) they don't want to use anything other than the greatest model, afraid that anything else would waste their time, 2) they believe their experience is that it's far better than anything else. Even if you show the…

This is of course subjective, but I would give a lot to have an alternative to Claude Code and the Claude models, but there just isn't anything comparable that works well in an integrated manner for agentic coding.

It's not like I haven't tried. Gemini CLI is still trash (it's probably a bit better now, but I still can't see the edits it proposes, well, etc.). I tried OpenCode, the whole experience was frustrating: the models give up mid-task, they run rampant with actions, the CLI does not offer the level of control and customization Claude Code offers, etc.

I've also tried the other major tools: Codex, Cursor, Cline, Aider, and others, nothing works for me. You are surprised people stick to Claude Code, I am surprised people bother with the other tools.

Maybe it has something to do with how I use the agentic tools: I use the CLI almost exclusively, rarely using the IDE (unless I want to actually code myself). I also almost always approve each and every edit. As such, my number one concern is for the tool to provide me with proper control in a simple and reliable manner: I want a rich permission system that works, and I want to see each proposed edit very clearly in an ergonomic diff format. I want to be able to type, recall, and edit my commands easily too. These are things Claude Code excels at that the other just don't.

The best I've been able to do is to use third-party routers to enable me use Claude Code with almost-SOTA models, and this is the approach that shows the most promise. I'd hate to be beholden to Anthropic's shenanigans.

Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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I'm finishing my annual paid Pro Gemini plan, so I'm on the free plan for Claude and I asked one (1) single question, which admittedly was about a research plan, using the Sonnet 4.6 Extended thinking model and instantly hit my limit until 2 PM (it was around 8 or 9 AM). Just a shockingly constrained service tier right now.

When I got my Google AI Ultra, I could run it morning to evening at opus 4.6. One month later I started hitting 5h limits when I was nearing my 5h window. 2 weeks after I hit my 5h limit 30 min into the morning. Cancelled my sub even quicker.

Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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post #161

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Eventually, when all of them do this (and they will be effectively forced to in order to remain competitive), then we will not have a choice.

I will make burgers myself. I take this approach with many things and services without great suppliers anyway. And I don't care if it's suboptimal because, in the long run, I'll have better skills and be protected from exactly this trend.

But the supermarkets will do it too

Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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Its a question of price, quality and other factors. If my company pays for it, i do not care. If i have a hobby project were it is about converting an idea in my spare time in what i want, i'm happily paying 20$. I just did something like this on the weekend over a few hours. I really enjoy having small tools based on single html page with javascript and json as a data store (i ask it to also add an import/export fea…

i don't use local models, i just use the APIs of cloud providers (eg fireworks, together, friendli, novita, even cerebras or groq). you can get subscriptions to use the APIs, from synthetic, or ollama, fireworks.

I might be missing it, but does fireworks actually have a subscription? All I saw was serverless (per token) and gpu $/hr.

And since I saw a few other comments talking about these, do you have any preference on different cloud providers with ZDR? I look every once in a while and want to switch to completely open models and/or at least ZDR so I can start doing things like summarizing e-mail. I'm thinking I can probably split my use between some sort of cloud api and claude code for heavier tasks.

Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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This is a real danger that I think a lot of people will run into as prices go up more and more in the future. Completely outside of the productivity debate, offloading cognitive tasks to LLMs leaves you less practiced in them and less ready to do them when the LLM isn't available. When you have to delegate only certain tasks to the LLM for financial reasons, you may find yourself very frustrated.

This is the bet of many of the big AI companies, and why they're subsidizing majorly the calls. With the latest cracks by the US gov, it seems Anthropic is starting to reduce those subsidies given their edge in the game. I am starting to consider local models more seriously beside just testing, but nowadays the ram/gpu market is bloated.

Local models just don't seem that useful for me for these particular tasks yet - the most recent versions of Codex and Claude Opus are the first time I've found them to be particularly useful in a "real engineering" context that isn't just vibe coding.

Google's TurboQuant might help address this, but it also might just widen the gap even further.

I am far on the skeptic edge when it comes to the generative AI side of ML tools though, so do take my opinion with that weight.

Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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This turned out to be a bug. https://x.com/om_patel5/status/2038754906715066444?s=20 One reddit user reverse engineered the binary and found that it was a cache invalidation issue. They are doing some hidden string replacement if the claude code conversation talks about billing or tokens. Looks like that invalidates the cache at that point. If that string appears anywhere in the conversation history, I think the star…

> BUG 2: every time you use --resume, your entire conversation cache rebuilds from scratch. one resume on a large conversation costs $0.15 that should cost near zero. I use it with an api key, so I can use /cost. When I did a resume, it showed the cost from what I thought was first go. I don't think it's clear what the difference is between api key and subscription, but am I believe that simply resuming cost me $5? T…

You have to actually send something

Re: Claude Code users hitting usage limits 'way faster than expected'

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It's going to get much worse. We're soon going to have enough data and compute (and are losing enough online privacy) to allow every company to apply personalized pricing down to the individual. My local restaurant is going to know that I am willing to buy a burger for at most $4.57 and my neighbor is only willing to pay $2.91 for it, and they will have the ability to charge us individually. Every business is going t…

Who would voluntarily do business with a company that does this? Not me.

Everyone who uses Uber is voluntarily doing business with a company that does this. When was the last time you took an Uber?
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