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I am definitely missing the pre-AI writing era

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Re: I am definitely missing the pre-AI writing era

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Post by burnished »

lelandfe wrote: post #154
jhhh wrote: post #145

I miss the text only reading era. This is a blog and should not need to have JavaScript enabled to render text to a page. I would rather not have to be annoyed by flavor of the month duplicate scroll bars, cookie banners, newsletter pop-ups 5 seconds in, scroll to the top pop-ups, idle overlays, highlight helper bars that break copy paste, etc. This blog didn't have all of those but had some. I'm sure the metrics loo…

> I had to load this page four times. First initially, and then disabling JavaScript Had to?

They gave enough detail that its clear from context what 'had to' meant.

Re: I am definitely missing the pre-AI writing era

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Post by podgietaru »

spoiler wrote: post #90
aidenn0 wrote: post #82

What does it say about me that when I run my writing through one of those "detect if AI" tools I seldom see a value of less than 70% confidence that the writing was AI generated?

I know this is a spicy take, but it probably just means you're more eloquent in your writing than most netizens... And that's not really a hard bar to clear if you look at how people write comments online (including places like GitHub). Anyone that uses punctuation, and capitalises words, probably automatically gets past the 70% confidence line.

It baffles me when I see ostensibly smart people refusing to click shift. Especially programmers. I know you can do it! I've seen you use curly brackets!

Re: I am definitely missing the pre-AI writing era

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Post by kohllision »

jhhh wrote: post #145

I miss the text only reading era. This is a blog and should not need to have JavaScript enabled to render text to a page. I would rather not have to be annoyed by flavor of the month duplicate scroll bars, cookie banners, newsletter pop-ups 5 seconds in, scroll to the top pop-ups, idle overlays, highlight helper bars that break copy paste, etc. This blog didn't have all of those but had some. I'm sure the metrics loo…

I appreciate the sentiment, but this remark is far too common here. It does not address the content of the post and could apply to any submission from LessWrong. The author of the post has made none of those technical choices.

Re: I am definitely missing the pre-AI writing era

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Post by alex43578 »

kristjansson wrote: post #136
boca_honey wrote: post #119

>I just wrote what my brain is instructing to type (might not reread it before posting) Why would I put effort into reading something that had no effort put in by the author? This guy needs an editor, AI or otherwise.

The relative value of those things are shifting. As the cost of polished LLM drivel falls to zero, some might prefer even the most unedited, off-the-cuff human writing to the slop.

What if the reality is that both are worthless? LLM slop is of no value, but human slop doesn’t gain value because fingers typed it.

Re: I am definitely missing the pre-AI writing era

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Post by levocardia »

ttamslam wrote: post #127
crthpl wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

have you tried pangram? it's basically the only good AI detector, and they have nearly 0 false positives

> and they have nearly 0 false positives I really don't see how this can be possible unless they're accepting abysmal recall? Perhaps I'm missing something fundamental here, but the idea that AI and non-AI assisted text can be separated with "nearly 0 false positives" just says to me that it's really just a filter for the weakest, most obvious AI generated text. Is that valuable?

Pangram's explicit pitch is extremely low false positives, accepting that a higher rate of false negatives is acceptable.

Re: I am definitely missing the pre-AI writing era

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Post by levocardia »

viccis wrote: post #131

>Although 80 % of the content was my own writing, the fact that it was run in a LLM enginee for grammar and vocabulary cross-check, made it failed the "probable written by AI " metric; and it was rejected. should be: >Although 80% of the content was my own writing, the fact that it was run through an LLM engine for grammar and vocabulary cross-checking meant that it failed the "probably written by AI" metric, and it…

Typos and minor grammatical errors within a well-reasoned piece are aesthetic now, means you didn't run it through an LLM...

Re: I am definitely missing the pre-AI writing era

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Post by [deleted] »

hectdev wrote: post #102
piker wrote: post #86

AI for editing is garbage. Chat to it to get ideas maybe, but in its current incarnation it’s just going to degrade anything you filter through it.

I work mostly on the tech side of things but my corporate limitation has always been writing up documentation, communicating/translating to stakeholders, and recalling everything relevant when writing PR descriptions. AI has been a breath of fresh air. I actually communicate more information efficiently than I would have ever put the effort into before. I still maintain my own writing for more casual things like soci…

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