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Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by skydhash »

ray_v wrote: post #138
himata4113 wrote: post #131

I swapped to neovim and never looked back. I don't even have vscode, jetbrains or anything similar installed anymore. AI has made it so so easy to get into neovim and make anything work no matter how obscure it is. The biggest benefit for me which I haven't realized how good it is with tmux and the low low memory usage. I mean I can keep EVERY project I work on open, quickly switch and maintain. No more 10gb memory u…

Ok, this sounds awesome, but do you miss the GUI integrations? like , being able to pop a document open in your editor from the desktop? It just feels like it's hard to nail down your preferred workflow / setup ... but it's likely worth it if you're using it daily! Are there any good visual or video demos of using this type of setup? I'm having trouble picturing what makes people really love this type of TUI-only wor…

I use Emacs and opening a new file is just pressing “C-x C-f” (find-file), typing the path (completion is available), and pressing enter. As for vim, I would spawn a new terminal (WM keybind, new tab, new pane with tmux), cd to the directory and open it with vim.

The nice thing is that I rely only on the keyboard, no need to point with the mouse. It may not be faster, but typing is sequential and there’s no context switching. So muscle memory helps a lot. Just like you don’t think about each character when you write, I don’t really think about the shortcuts and commands I use.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by himata4113 »

magguzu wrote: post #134
himata4113 wrote: post #131

I swapped to neovim and never looked back. I don't even have vscode, jetbrains or anything similar installed anymore. AI has made it so so easy to get into neovim and make anything work no matter how obscure it is. The biggest benefit for me which I haven't realized how good it is with tmux and the low low memory usage. I mean I can keep EVERY project I work on open, quickly switch and maintain. No more 10gb memory u…

I use neovim daily but am 100% sure I'm not even scratching the surface of its power. In fact I'm not even sure I'm using anything specific to the "neo" variant vs plain vim. I can do simple search/replace, page up/down, jump to character or delete x words, but I feel like I'm missing a lot to really take advantage of it. Is there a tutorial or guide people recommend to become more of a power user? The only plugin I…

Honestly, same. I did naturally start to pick up things such as c(code actions) and some git related helpers. But gets you 90% of the way there with / navigation.

Also just use the mouse! Lazyvim has great support for it.

SK is your friend as well.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by g947o »

goosejuice wrote: post #158
g947o wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is why I just went with Helix and learned their keybindings. I have much more important things to do than figuring out why a plugin stopped working.

Just pin the plugin or don't use it.

Not a choice if you need a specific new feature or a certain fix.

The entire software development world would be much simpler if nobody needs new features, bugs and CVEs don't exist, or "just pin the version" works.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by jatora »

himata4113 wrote: post #160
jatora wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Use windows and leave kernel panics behind :) i can tell you dont actually SSH often by tbe way. Also, tmux doesnt magically reduce resource requirements of your applications

What are you talking about, kernel panics are part of life with consumer hardware. They would happen even if it was windows? You're right. I don't use SSH that often due to kubernetes, infact I only use ssh for connecting to my desktop to access my tmux sessions and it's great. I know where you're trying to go with this and it's simply not true. Who said anything about tmux? We're talking about neovim which is extrem…

you mentioned tmux. are you gaslighting me? lmao.

and kernel panics are exceedingly rare on windows. i havent BSOD'd in eons

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by gootz »

himata4113 wrote: post #131

I swapped to neovim and never looked back. I don't even have vscode, jetbrains or anything similar installed anymore. AI has made it so so easy to get into neovim and make anything work no matter how obscure it is. The biggest benefit for me which I haven't realized how good it is with tmux and the low low memory usage. I mean I can keep EVERY project I work on open, quickly switch and maintain. No more 10gb memory u…

Sounds awesome. Can you tell us more... How do you ideally use/setup AI,tmux and nvim?

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by skydhash »

Jare wrote: post #60
PhilipRoman wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always thought Vim/Nvim already had a built-in package manager, git clone inside ~/.vim/pack/*/start, am I missing anything by not using a "real" package manager?

I imagine you are left with manual dependencies, manual updates, and possibly without lazy loading or portable configuration. That stuff is not strictly necessary and may be easy to roll your own if you're very into it, but it's comfortable to have a standard.

Lazyloading is already present in Vim, it’s called autoload and most plugins I’ve seen use that feature

https://learnvimscriptthehardway.stevelosh.com/chapters/53.h...

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by troyvit »

magguzu wrote: post #134
himata4113 wrote: post #131

I swapped to neovim and never looked back. I don't even have vscode, jetbrains or anything similar installed anymore. AI has made it so so easy to get into neovim and make anything work no matter how obscure it is. The biggest benefit for me which I haven't realized how good it is with tmux and the low low memory usage. I mean I can keep EVERY project I work on open, quickly switch and maintain. No more 10gb memory u…

I use neovim daily but am 100% sure I'm not even scratching the surface of its power. In fact I'm not even sure I'm using anything specific to the "neo" variant vs plain vim. I can do simple search/replace, page up/down, jump to character or delete x words, but I feel like I'm missing a lot to really take advantage of it. Is there a tutorial or guide people recommend to become more of a power user? The only plugin I…

If you search up vim games you'll find some fun tutorials.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by sdsd »

My favorite thing about Neovim is how easy it is to customize (I know, I know, but keep reading, it's about to get spicier) with LLMs. I got sick of Bear and Obsidian and had DeepSeek bash Vim's head in until it was the todo + calendar app of my dreams. Since OpenCode can easily interact with Vim during the terminal, it can itself test whether its changes work until it meets the criteria I set. No going back.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by himata4113 »

gootz wrote: post #165
himata4113 wrote: post #131

I swapped to neovim and never looked back. I don't even have vscode, jetbrains or anything similar installed anymore. AI has made it so so easy to get into neovim and make anything work no matter how obscure it is. The biggest benefit for me which I haven't realized how good it is with tmux and the low low memory usage. I mean I can keep EVERY project I work on open, quickly switch and maintain. No more 10gb memory u…

Sounds awesome. Can you tell us more... How do you ideally use/setup AI,tmux and nvim?

tmux+lazyvim with mouse enabled, tmux with continiuum/resurrect, rest I can't really tell you about other than telling AI exactly what I wanted and doing so until I felt productive again.

My setup looks something like this:

  |ai |nvim           |git view |
  |___|               |________ |
  |ai |               |terminal |
  |   |(proj selector)|         |
ai is an independent tmux window where I can shuffle between project groups.

for AI I found oh-my-pi from can1357 it's magical how good it is. It was a top rated post on HN awhile back.

Re: Neovim 0.12.0

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Post by himata4113 »

jatora wrote: post #164
himata4113 wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you talking about, kernel panics are part of life with consumer hardware. They would happen even if it was windows? You're right. I don't use SSH that often due to kubernetes, infact I only use ssh for connecting to my desktop to access my tmux sessions and it's great. I know where you're trying to go with this and it's simply not true. Who said anything about tmux? We're talking about neovim which is extrem…

you mentioned tmux. are you gaslighting me? lmao. and kernel panics are exceedingly rare on windows. i havent BSOD'd in eons

yes I mentioned tmux as a project management/switcher tool what about it? (how good (nvim) is with tmux and the low low memory usage.

I haven't had a kernel panic once on reliable hardware. Linux is way more stable than windows device drivers and progressively less reliable graphics drivers.

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