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Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Post by Gud »

bawolff wrote: post #117
epolanski wrote: post #84

It's insane the power and influence Israelis have. In the US it's blatant, from the insane amounts of money and weaponry sent to Israel (why are american taxpayers subsidizing Israel exactly? It's not like they are neither poor nor US owes them) to the recent events in the middle east. But even in Europe. Here in Italy the coalition government has multiple high profile politicians that just happen to be shareholders…

> why are american taxpayers subsidizing Israel exactly? The same reason USA is subsidizing half the middle eastern countries - its a strategic location near extremely important transit routes, near important resources, and right between major powers so the region doesn't squarely fall in any major power's sphere of influence and thus up to be influenced. I dont know why all these conspiracy theories think the usa is…

Israel controls no strategic resources, unlike the other allies the USA has in the Middle East.

Your comment completely ignores the long history Israel has of rigging the US elections by funding their pet congressmen.

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Post by eithed »

vrganj wrote: post #70

Israel under Netanyahu is part of the international antidemocratic axis of imperialist autocracy. Other members, in no particular order: Orban, Trump, Putin, Babis, Thiel, Bolsonaro, Ellison, Milei, Nawrocki. These gentlemen (and of course they're all men) constitute the 21st century axis of evil, responsible for most of the backsliding and worsening of rule of law around the world.

Nawrocki is just incompetent (and to be fair that was his selling point for PiS). Now - Kaczynski, that's where true evil lies

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Post by was8309 »

SoftTalker wrote: post #144

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Mueller correctly stated there was an orchestrated disinformation campaign by Russia. That's different than Russians under voting tables stuffing ballots in their pockets. some like to conflate the two so that they can call it all the 'russia hoax'

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Post by nec4b »

There was no rigging or any manipulation of votes. Current and previous government officials were caught bragging about their previous corrupt adventures. The government after some initial shock came up with a story about foreign intervention. Slovenian newspapers and journalist activist carried it all the way to Brussels in order bank on negative emotions about Israel and hopped people will think about that. There was no institutional response, because the current government has cleaned institutions of people not loyal to them. It's a rather sad situation. The society is deeply divided. When similar thing happened in Belgium, the corrupt people were immediately punished and nobody cared who exposed them.

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

Gud wrote: post #161
bawolff wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> why are american taxpayers subsidizing Israel exactly? The same reason USA is subsidizing half the middle eastern countries - its a strategic location near extremely important transit routes, near important resources, and right between major powers so the region doesn't squarely fall in any major power's sphere of influence and thus up to be influenced. I dont know why all these conspiracy theories think the usa is…

Israel controls no strategic resources, unlike the other allies the USA has in the Middle East. Your comment completely ignores the long history Israel has of rigging the US elections by funding their pet congressmen.

> Israel controls no strategic resources

Israel is, to use a Pacific-theatre term, our unsinkable aircraft carrier. A better Pakistan.

> long history Israel has of rigging the US elections by funding their pet congressmen

Americans were, until recently, pro Israel. The funding worked because amplifying anti-Israeli sentiments among electeds lost them votes. Now that that balance of perceptions has shifted, the effect has as well. And note that pro-Israel != Israel; lots of America pro-Israeli influence is entirely homegrown.

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Post by BigTTYGothGF »

tinfoilhatter wrote: post #132
selimthegrim wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't Islam the one with the Black Cube?

Yes, the kabba is also a nod to Saturn (which is why I said all Abrahamic religions incorporate some Saturn worship into them), and the people walking around the kabba make the rings of Saturn (if you employ some time-lapse photography of them walking around, it's quite obvious). Saturn has a hexagonal shaped storm on its north pole (and the all-seeing eye on its south pole). If you collapse a cube into two dimension…

> rings of Saturn

Not observed until 1610

> Saturn has a hexagonal shaped storm on its north pole

Not observed until 1981/1987

> and the all-seeing eye on its south pole

Not immediately clear when first observed, I'll bet it wasn't until Cassini got there in 2004.

I appreciate the creativity in a new-to-me conspiracy theory, but be a little more careful about the historical record.

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Post by fweimer »

booleandilemma wrote: post #140
carabiner wrote: post #130

Why are they like this... There are elite cultures that just live and don't bother anyone. Israel isn't one of them.

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Isn't that more the U.S. evangelical view of Christianity?

(Although obviously there are of course Jewish thinkers who believe in ethnic superiority, but many also reject it.)

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