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The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

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Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

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>"However, the hacker was only able to siphon off $25 million; the rest was locked into the protocol after system admins got alerted." "Only" ?!!! Poor thing.

If they take too much then confidence in the coin is absolutely lost and the coin fails and it’s price rapidly goes towards zero, so they’re possibly being smart by only taking a small percentage — if that was the hackers decision

Yeah $25m is only little but could still be useful

Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

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If your definition excludes Ethereum your understanding of the term so differs from everyone else's that we aren't talking about the same thing

Ethereum is a great utility token. Smart contracts absolutely have utility in the digital economy. It's just not a cryptocurrency, is all. It had a massive premine, there's no supply cap, it's subject to OFAC censorship, and has effectively demonstrated that just ~4.8% of the total ETH supply can vote to cause rollout and widespread adoption of a fork that reverses transactions. We need different words for these fund…

Those are all arguments for why Ethereum is a bad cryptocurrency, not for why Ethereum isn’t a cryptocurrency at all.

Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

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It's a calculated risk. They know the VIN number and I assume made a copy of your photo ID.

If you get scammed, it requires you to sue, many EU countries have very long waiting times for those, so you'll be carless and money less for a long time. Cash or crypto solves this elegantly.

How does crypto solve this? You still have to send the funds and hope they give you the car - it's exactly the same as a bank transfer.

Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

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If you get scammed, it requires you to sue, many EU countries have very long waiting times for those, so you'll be carless and money less for a long time. Cash or crypto solves this elegantly.

How does crypto solve this? You still have to send the funds and hope they give you the car - it's exactly the same as a bank transfer.

Because the transfer is done instantly and every party can verify it. Just like cash.

Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

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At a traditional bank you have your national deposit insurance scheme; you get that in return for converting your "assets" to the said nations issued currency but accept the authorities control of the money supply and your funds. With decentralised money, you get the safety of a globally distributed attestation backed by cryptography without a single authority controlling the supply of money or your funds. There is n…

I mean you're just making bare assertions, of course there are halfway options. Different components of the account or relationship can have different parameters. Most crypto products are not the equivalent of depositor accounts anyway, they wouldn't be insured necessarily at a traditional bank either.

Most "crypto" products aren't even crypto but custody accounts. But that doesn't change the fact that blockchains that can be controlled by specific entities unanimously are a joke of a crypto.

Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

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If your employer does direct deposit of USD into your USD bank account, you don't need stable coins. This is not the case for most people outside of the U.S.

I am outside the US. Many of my assets are in USD and USD-denominated securities. I've never touched a stablecoin. Waiting to hear what "most people outside the US" are supposed to need those stablecoins for.

Those stablecoins are useful when you want to do crime.

Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

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Nope, that is the foundation of bad stablecoin. Trustless decentralized stablecoin like DAI exist. People just largely don't do their homework and prefer scams that lure them in with promises of 'yield'

DAI and SKY are backed in large part by USDC, so they are not truly decentralized. It is possible in theory, but nobody has successfully done it so far.

DAI made some dumb decisions for market reasons recently but it was an actual stablecoin for a long time. It worked fine, they just decided to make it worse for some reason.

Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

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I mean you're just making bare assertions, of course there are halfway options. Different components of the account or relationship can have different parameters. Most crypto products are not the equivalent of depositor accounts anyway, they wouldn't be insured necessarily at a traditional bank either.

Most "crypto" products aren't even crypto but custody accounts. But that doesn't change the fact that blockchains that can be controlled by specific entities unanimously are a joke of a crypto.

There are just some things that are unsolved. For example, a smart contract can't act as an oracle for many types of external event. There's no way around that. Doesn't mean it's not valuable to make the rest of your product trustless. Reducing the keyholders matters. Unless you think NSA key escrow is also cool because hey, one person, somewhere, has the key, so why not the whole government?

Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

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post #126
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And what happened next? He mixed those coins? Transformed them into monero?

first step is to turn them into real crypo like ETH (so its unfreezable) then probably mix them via different methods then sell them via OTC-style swap platforms like fixedfloat / changelly etc

Yeah but aren’t those KYC-based platforms? I mean eventually he can get tracked down… no?

Re: The Resolv hack: How one compromised key printed $23M

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Most people don't realize they're inside a plexiglass shielded financial jail until they try to do something like wiring money for some legal activity in someplace spicy or on the FATF grey list. If you fall into the middle bands of uses, or in the upper class that can just bend or make the rules, then the financial system is well oiled and it looks like the people questioning it are just cranks. It's true that a lot…

This comment isn't really beating the rap that the primary purpose of stablecoins is to facilitate crime.

Running down a list of corner cases means that you've already accepted the central idea. It's a classic internet troll-as-in-fishing gambit for derailing conversations that's been weirdly normalized.
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