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Re: Warranty Void If Regenerated

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Post by foxglacier »

travisgriggs wrote: post #92
donatj wrote: post #61

I'm trying to sort out my own emotions on this. I did not realize this was AI generated while reading it until I came to the comments here... And I feel genuinely had? Like "oh wow, you got me"... I don't like this feeling. It's certainly the longest thing (I know about) I've taken the time to read that was AI generated. The writing struck me as genuinely good, like something out of The New Yorker. I found the story…

I had a similar experience a few days ago with some music on Spotify. It was an Irish Pub song, rendering some political satire that seemed pretty consistent with what I figure is a predominant Irish viewpoint. Since I holidayed in Ireland a while ago and adored the public there, I really liked it. I reveled in the fact that somewhere in Ireland, there was a band singing messages in pubs that resonated strongly with…

The connection is often with other people experiencing the same thing even if they thing is AI generated. You can see this clearly on Youtube with comments which just quote a line from the video. They get lots of upvotes, probably from other people who felt that line was special too and enjoy seeing others sharing the same feeling. Of course if all those comments are AI too, you would lose that connection.

Re: Warranty Void If Regenerated

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Post by andreybaskov »

Stwerner wrote: post #107
furyofantares wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm particularly allergic to LLM-isms, if you look at my comment history I'm constantly complaining about LLM-written text. I am genuinely quite surprised to have read that much LLM-generated text and been happy to do so. I am also extremely interested in thinking about where software development is going, so I really appreciated the ideas that went into this. Since you seem open to feedback, I want to add that I fel…

Ahh cool, I'll dig through your comment history tonight :) I will say, I suspect we're only in the early stages of the LLM's writing equivalent of "autotune" while we all collectively figure out what's tasteful use, what isn't, what it might be like to use autotune as an instrument itself, and then what gets overused. So it'll probably get a lot worse before it gets better. And thanks for the note about the images, I…

Just wanted to say that I've felt the same about the images. To me it's likely was the text that for some reason had AI-feel to it. Great story though, I was in awe learning it was AI generated.

Re: Warranty Void If Regenerated

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Post by andreybaskov »

Reading this was a roller coaster for me.

Because of a bad habit reading comments before the link I knew it was AI. I read it regardless, and... I still enjoyed it!

I'm very much not a writer or a critic, so my definition of good writing is likely very low. Yet I can't shake off this weird feeling that I truly enjoyed the writing and felt the emotions, _while_ knowing it's LLM.

I'm guessing that human after touch is what made it pleasant to read. I'd love to see the commit history of the process. Fun times we live in!

Re: Warranty Void If Regenerated

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Post by smcin »

bjt wrote: post #87
nikkwong wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it about it that makes the story less interesting to you? It's the same story, down to the same delicate details. When AI-slop stops being, well, slop, and just is everything that humans do, but much better, and much more efficient—will we have the same repulsion to it that many of us do now? I find it interesting to ponder. We look at the luddite movement as futile and somewhat fatalistic in a way. I feel li…

You can get some good guesses from the comment itself. > I assumed the writer was a journalist or author with a non-technical background trying to explore a more "utopian" vision of where trends could go. If you assume you're reading something from a person with intention and a perspective, who you could connect with or influence in some way, then that affects the experience of reading. It's not just the words on the…

This reminds me of having the reverse experience with the 2017 New Yorker viral "Cat Person" story [0] which a (usually trustworthy) friend forwarded and enthusiastically told me to read: waste of time shaggy-dog story, intentional engagement-trolling aimed at the intersection of the hot-button topics of its target readership *. But why are we culturally expected to allow more slack to a human author, even a meretricious one? Both are comparably bad. The LLM-authored one needs a disclaimer at the top to set its readers' expectations right, then readers can make an informed choice.

(* "Cat Person" honestly felt like the literary equivalent of Rickrolling; I would have stopped reading it after the first page if not for my friend's glowing endorsement.)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27778689

Re: Warranty Void If Regenerated

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Post by throwaway2037 »

donatj wrote: post #61

I'm trying to sort out my own emotions on this. I did not realize this was AI generated while reading it until I came to the comments here... And I feel genuinely had? Like "oh wow, you got me"... I don't like this feeling. It's certainly the longest thing (I know about) I've taken the time to read that was AI generated. The writing struck me as genuinely good, like something out of The New Yorker. I found the story…

I also had no idea this was LLM generated. After reading your comment, I had a similar emotional reaction.

Thinking deeper, it seems prudent that we tag submissions like this with a prefix. Example: "LLM: ". This would be similar to "Show HN: ". While we cannot control what the original sources choose to disclose, we can fill that gap ourselves.

My point: I agree with you: It is misleading that the blog post does not include a preface explaining it was written by an LLM (and ideally, the author's motivation to use an LLM). However, it is still a good blog post that has generated some thoughtful discussion on HN.

Re: Warranty Void If Regenerated

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Post by user- »

Around the part where Margaret explains the problem to Tom , and started to feel annoyed. I could tell it was a LLM trying to fit a sci fi novella style of writing. And it was doing a good job , it was certainly better than 90% of posts ive read in the last 6 months.

Dont know why that makes me annoyed, maybe cause its the depressing seriousness of being a 'prompter' and the americana framing of it.

Re: Warranty Void If Regenerated

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Post by [deleted] »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #127
devin wrote: post #91

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What is your understanding of the luddite movement? I ask because I don't believe many are aware that luddites were not anti-technology. It was a labor movement which was targeted at exploitation by factory owners. Their issue was with factories forcing the use of machines to produce inferior products so owners could use cheaper, low skill labor. https://www.vice.com/en/article/luddites-definition-wrong-la...

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Re: Warranty Void If Regenerated

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Post by rswail »

I'm very impressed that was written by an LLM.

Does that make the OP an "authoring mechanic"? Or an "AI editor"?

Douglas Adams had it right, the problem is not that the answer was useless, it was that people didn't know what the right question was.

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