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Re: Mistral AI Releases Forge

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Post by troyvit »

dragochat wrote: post #124

where sample notebook/script? where github? where signup? ...learn a thing or two from NVIDIA or gtfo

lol

> Mistral AI has already partnered with world-leading organizations, like ASML, DSO National Laboratories Singapore, Ericsson, European Space Agency, Home Team Science and Technology Agency (HTX) Singapore, and Reply to train models on the proprietary data that powers their most complex systems and future-defining technologies.

When you can actually represent somebody like the ESA get in touch with them. Otherwise, uh, gtfo.

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Post by butILoveLife »

Duwensatzaj wrote: post #154
butILoveLife wrote: post #132

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Grok is not SOTA, but its so obviously better than Mistral. Mistral is just some European patriotism or something. Grok is nice for asking morally gray questions. ChatGPT will lie in these cases.

What lies have you seen? ChatGPT is the most censored one, but I’ve only seen rejections, not lies. My other complaint is that ChatGPT ends every response with a teaser to ask more questions.

Ask game theory questions with real humans where its best to defect.

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Post by butILoveLife »

danelski wrote: post #155
butILoveLife wrote: post #131

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If you couldn't use the words Europe to describe why you'd chose Mistral, you'd have no good reasons to choose Mistral. Its just not good. Its bottom floor for LLMs.

> Its bottom floor for LLMs. What? That's just demonstrably false. The market doesn't consist of 5 providers.

You know about LMarena? I just looked it up, Mistral is number 59 on the list.

Free Chinese models are better than it.

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Post by utopiah »

hermanzegerman wrote: post #139
utopiah wrote: post #70

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I want to believe... but I also need proofs of that "trend", any reference I could read on please?

Multiple Government organisations ditching Microsoft? Including entire German states? My University also migrated to OpenExchange

That's the public sector. I can also give examples of schools in Denmark, cities in France, education system in France, cities in Spain too, but they said "big EU companies".

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Post by danelski »

butILoveLife wrote: post #163
danelski wrote: post #155

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> Its bottom floor for LLMs. What? That's just demonstrably false. The market doesn't consist of 5 providers.

You know about LMarena? I just looked it up, Mistral is number 59 on the list. Free Chinese models are better than it.

That's one of the possible benchmarks, not the only one. Being 59th there, on a list enriched with every variation of Model_Name X.Y (March 2025 Preview) Pro-Thinking, translates to being in the top 10 providers worldwide which is a very interesting mark of failure considering that coincidentally they're also number 1 from their economic area. If you don't know why the last part is important, go read some news.

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Post by spiderfarmer »

butILoveLife wrote: post #132
grosswait wrote: post #127

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This sounds like an ideology based reply. Grok is underrated and I think has a better chance of long term success than most. The current growth strategy means (for me) their chat harness is not up to par for serious work. Their API is consistently among the most used on OpenRouter. While I can’t vouch for it myself, I think this is a decent proxy for capability. You can definitely see glimmers of greatness in their c…

Grok is not SOTA, but its so obviously better than Mistral. Mistral is just some European patriotism or something. Grok is nice for asking morally gray questions. ChatGPT will lie in these cases.

> Grok is nice for asking morally gray questions. ChatGPT will lie in these cases.

Are you really that oblivious to the painfully cringy manipulation tactics by the man who partied at Epstein's island? https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/nov/21/elon-musk...

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Post by spiderfarmer »

drstewart wrote: post #102
spiderfarmer wrote: post #75

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While few companies announce this publicly, I know from personal experience with corporate clients that many companies are preparing for Trump to use Big Tech as a bargaining chip. And they should. Because the US is not behaving rationally at all. https://nltimes.nl/2026/02/10/rabobank-ing-abn-amro-seek-eur... https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/13/gartner_cio_cloud_sov... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/eur…

>While few companies announce this publicly, I know from personal experience with corporate clients Well I have even more personal experience that contradicts yours, and this isn't true at all. Everyone uses Claude / Gemini / OpenAI. Mistral isn't even on the table.

Just a sample: https://mistral.ai/customers

And you can Google for "We use Mistral" to find thousands of usecases by startups and other companies.

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Post by charcircuit »

menaerus wrote: post #85
charcircuit wrote: post #80

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For coding use cases you may want a way to search for symbols themselves or do a plain text exact match for the name of a symbol to find the relevant documents to include. There is more to searching than building a basic similarity search.

Sorry but who mentioned coding as a use-case? My comment was general and not specific to the coding use-case, and I don't understand where did you get the idea from that I am arguing that building a similarity search engine would be a substitute to the symbol-search engine or that symbol-search is inferior to the similarity-search? Please don't put words into my mouth. My question was genuine without making any presu…

I mentioned coding as a use case in my comment you replied to. You were asking for an example for when one wouldn't use vector search and I provided one. I did not say similarity search would be a substitute. I said that for the coding case you do not need it.

>you would still likely want to build a similarity search engine

In practice tools like Claude Code, Codex, Gemini, Kimi Code, etc are getting away with searching for code with grep / find and understanding code by loading a sufficient amount of code into the context window. It is sufficient to understand higher level concepts in the code. The extra complexity of maintaining vector database top of this is not free and requires extra complexity.

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Post by spiderfarmer »

jstummbillig wrote: post #146
schubidubiduba wrote: post #68

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They use those because the decision to use them was made years ago. Things have changed since then

I don't think big business is genuinely planning for a world where US tech becomes completely unavailable.

2 years ago I would have agreed with you, but after Greenland the vibe is very different. And it's not like the situation is improving.

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Post by R0m41nJosh »

soco wrote: post #108
newswasboring wrote: post #99

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I have a general impression they are not interested too much in individual devs and making it suite their workflow. They want to be a B2B company and deliver a custom workflow per company. Or it can just be a Google like problem where a big company one part doesn't talk to the other.

But wouldn't winning devs be a neat helping point in winning b2b contacts? Or they think golf courts are enough for success? Okay they might be right here, but still they make it so confusing for no obvious reason.

As far as I understood the French president is pushing French most valuated companies to use Mistral. There can't be a more to down strategy :)
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