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US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

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Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#161

24/7 trading sounds like a nightmare. “Your retirement savings crashed 30% because there wasn’t enough liquidity to cover a 3am panic over non-news”.

Honestly, stocks should trade for three hours a day. 24/7 trading sounds like a win for exchange operators and a loss for anyone else.

Maybe even just a single auction in the afternoon.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#162

One of my favorite stories about logistics and quarterly earnings deadlines (from when I worked at a pharmaceutical company: "In our business, a truckload of various drugs can easily reach $10-$15 million. Now, if that truck arrives at the depot at 11:59pm March 31st then it's first quarter earnings. If it arrives at 12:01am April 1st then it's second quarter earnings. $15 million is a BIG shortfall, even for us, so…

That doesn't make any sense because the revenue is already booked for the sale which has nothing to do with when the delivery truck actually arrives.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#163

One of my favorite stories about logistics and quarterly earnings deadlines (from when I worked at a pharmaceutical company: "In our business, a truckload of various drugs can easily reach $10-$15 million. Now, if that truck arrives at the depot at 11:59pm March 31st then it's first quarter earnings. If it arrives at 12:01am April 1st then it's second quarter earnings. $15 million is a BIG shortfall, even for us, so…

Okay, what's that to say it won't be the same but even worse on a 6mo reporting schedule?

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, stocks should trade for three hours a day. 24/7 trading sounds like a win for exchange operators and a loss for anyone else.

Maybe even just a single auction in the afternoon.

one per week should do it.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#165

24/7 trading sounds like a nightmare. “Your retirement savings crashed 30% because there wasn’t enough liquidity to cover a 3am panic over non-news”.

The beauty of it, though, is that it would recover almost immediately as systems arbitrage an obviously stupid situation.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#166

Simultaneously they are opening up 0DTE options on certain stocks starting with large market caps but don't be surprised when this expands. Currently this was limited to large etfs like SPX. They are also extending trading hours towards 24/7 and eventually 365. How they square increasing liquidity with delaying information is insane. I know there is a lot of manipulation to make quarterly numbers and the tax code is…

Can you enumerate some examples of when it having less information is better than having more?

For the company it doesnt work well, you’re leaking too much info to competitors

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#167

This seems like bad news for regular investors, and good news for insiders. Reporting is burdensome, sure, but being listed on public exchanges is not a requirement.

Listing on a public exchange is not a requirement, but it is generally a boon to the public interest. The theory is that if we close the gap in regulatory burden between public companies and large private companies, then maybe we'll see more IPOs like back in the 90's, before Sarbanes-Oxley and other new laws.

Now, with an admin that's disposed to deregulation, the usual approach to closing that gap is to loosen requirements on public companies. You don't see a lot of people advocating for closing the other half of the gap, where we increase the reporting requirements on private companies. Stricter requirements there seem justified if you look with a bit of realism at how many consumer-facing funds are holding little pieces of unicorns. A lot of people have a stake in SpaceX or Stripe, one way or another. I'd like to see at least a few proposals that make it less comfortable to stay private for so long.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#168

One of my favorite stories about logistics and quarterly earnings deadlines (from when I worked at a pharmaceutical company: "In our business, a truckload of various drugs can easily reach $10-$15 million. Now, if that truck arrives at the depot at 11:59pm March 31st then it's first quarter earnings. If it arrives at 12:01am April 1st then it's second quarter earnings. $15 million is a BIG shortfall, even for us, so…

That doesn't make any sense because the revenue is already booked for the sale which has nothing to do with when the delivery truck actually arrives.

It's got to be one of these:

FOB Shipping Point (or Origin): Responsibility transfers to the buyer as soon as the goods leave the seller's premises. You book it when it leaves your loading dock.

FOB Destination: The seller retains risk and costs until the goods reach the buyer’s location.

The sale doesn't happen until the asset transfer occurs. Before that any cash you get from the sale is balanced by the liability to actually produce the good or refund the money. Or more likely you don't get any cash but can't record the bill as accounts receivable. It's not receivable until the transfer point is crossed.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#169

Simultaneously they are opening up 0DTE options on certain stocks starting with large market caps but don't be surprised when this expands. Currently this was limited to large etfs like SPX. They are also extending trading hours towards 24/7 and eventually 365. How they square increasing liquidity with delaying information is insane. I know there is a lot of manipulation to make quarterly numbers and the tax code is…

No legitimate business needs to settle trades more than once a day.

Re: US SEC preparing to scrap quarterly reporting requirement

#170

Simultaneously they are opening up 0DTE options on certain stocks starting with large market caps but don't be surprised when this expands. Currently this was limited to large etfs like SPX. They are also extending trading hours towards 24/7 and eventually 365. How they square increasing liquidity with delaying information is insane. I know there is a lot of manipulation to make quarterly numbers and the tax code is…

Can you enumerate some examples of when it having less information is better than having more?

When your decisions are driven by fear, anxiety and FOMO, knowing less can lead to fewer irrational reactions.

That’s why people hide information from bad bosses.

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