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I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

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Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

#161
Earlier today I told my daughter that while AI might be a reason for my 8 year old grandson not to major in cmpsci some day, she should still encourage him to learn coding because (1) it is tremendous fun; and (2) develops problem solving skills.

It's why I spend the majority of my time coding every day at age 73.

Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

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> it depends on what you enjoy: the journey or the destination This has been 100% my experience. I enjoy the puzzle solving and the general joy of organizing and pulling things together. I could really care less about the end result to meet some business need. The fun part is in the building, it's in the understanding, the growth of me . I have coworkers who get itchy when they don't see their work on production, and…

I feel like I still get to solve the puzzles I like because I like the higher level architecture/design parts. I just don’t have to type as much because I can provide a stubbed out solution and tell it to fill I the rest.

Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From my understanding, you can instead use Claude in the following manner: understand and solve the problem, put up pseudo code, and then tell Claude to generate real code and maybe restructure it a bit. So you don't have to write the actual code but have solved the problem all by yourself.

"So you dont have to" - I suspect the person you are replying to likes to write code.

If you worked in an office and your boss asked for 100 copies of their memo, they want you to use the copy machine.

If they saw you typing it out 100 times they’d tell you that you’re wasting time. It does t matter that you like to type and that you went to school to get a degree in typing.

Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

#164

I'm not sure I understand... why not simply ignore AI and keep coding the way you always have? It's a bit like saying motorboats killed your passion for rowing.

Well, I do. I do not dislike AI at all: I even find it fun, although different. The thing is that I am not only enjoying the journey, although it is was I enjoy the most by far. But when everyone is able to reach the destination, the interest in the journey decreases (if this makes sense). It is not a rant against AI: I use AI daily, it IS useful, it is just less fun since AI is around, and the only way I can explain…

It's just change. Yeah I also miss coding, but I also like the new things that AI allows me to access. And in times of change we can feel uncomfortable, because what we were used to is no more, and we cannot see yet what is to come. But if you're open to it, a new passion will arise in you, that you could never imagined before.

Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

#165
Have you considered that the people finding passion in vibe coding are enjoying the journey? I think what you are lamenting is that other people aren't on the same journey you took.

Your destination is only a point somewhere on what they perceive as the journey. You're saying, well, if they don't go where I did and stop when I did, it was no proper journey.

Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This has been 100% my experience. I enjoy the puzzle solving and the general joy of organizing and pulling things together. I could really care less about the end result to meet some business need. The fun part is in the building, it's in the understanding, the growth of me. Quite a few of the projects I always wanted to do have components or dependencies I really don't want to do. And as a result, I never did them…

Note that you are able to choose freely what parts of the work get done by Claude, and what parts you do yourself. At work, many of us have no such luxury because bosses drunk on FOMO are forcing agent use.

Yeah, I've noticed at several customers that they're just trying to cram LLMs into everything, instead of maybe first thinking if it's sensible for that specific usecase.

I'm also doing some things where I don't think LLMs are not a good fit - but I'm doing it because I care to see about things like failure behaviour, how to identify when it is looping (which can be sometimes hard to see when using huge context models) and similar stuff - which results in more knowledge about when it makes sense to use LLMS. No such learnings visible at many customers, even if LLMs do something stupid.

Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

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> it depends on what you enjoy: the journey or the destination This has been 100% my experience. I enjoy the puzzle solving and the general joy of organizing and pulling things together. I could really care less about the end result to meet some business need. The fun part is in the building, it's in the understanding, the growth of me . I have coworkers who get itchy when they don't see their work on production, and…

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Re: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code killed a passion

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This is actually quite a refreshing view. I feel like all I read about is how magnificent AI is, and wether it will be for the better or worse. But you are absolutely right that, people who enjoy the actual work (eg. coding), it might take away some of the passion and joy. Much because AI has enabled so much more to be done in the same time. Kind-of now it gives you almost guilt if you don't use it, because every one else will get so far ahead and the work "should've/could've" been done much faster.
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