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Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Post by curt15 »

coldtea wrote: post #132
ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Controlling what children do online is a solved problem: Parenting and parental control applications. This is absolutely not true. Here in the UK schools are swarming with ipads and shit like that. They're given to primary school children because they're "more engaging". Children are supposed to practice their reading and even handwriting[1] on ipads. Naturally they're on youtube instead. It's really bad. As far as…

>> > Controlling what children do online is a solved problem: Parenting and parental control applications. > This is absolutely not true.Here in the UK schools are swarming with ipads and shit like that. They're given to primary school children because they're "more engaging". Children are supposed to practice their reading and even handwriting on ipads. Naturally they're on youtube instead. It's really bad. And how…

The schools could also simply not distribute tablets or laptops to students. The technology has not produced noticeably better readers, thinkers, or writers compared to the days when students read actual books and wrote on paper.

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Post by dataflow »

Telaneo wrote: post #122
dataflow wrote: post #17

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I have a feeling they're going to be very disappointed with the actual answers they'll receive to these questions.

On the one hand, I'd love a judge to respond 'yes' to all of these, if only to confirm how ridiculous they are and that a reasonable implementation is impossible. On the other hand, I'd hate for a judge to respond 'yes', because then the enforcement of said ridiculousness becomes vindicated.

These aren't all yes/no questions. And what I'm saying is I think anyone who thinks there's some sort of paradox in answering these will be in for a rude awakening. E.g., "How do you fine someone per child affected?" Idk, maybe the parents that become aware of their children being affected would join a lawsuit, and others would not be parties to the suit?

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Post by singpolyma3 »

ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #121
nextos wrote: post #14

Something remarkable and unsettling is how the age verification debate has popped up almost simultaneously in the US, UK, and EU. With the same logical fallacies. Pretty telling about how transnational lobbies and their interests work. Controlling what children do online is a solved problem: Parenting and parental control applications.

> Controlling what children do online is a solved problem: Parenting and parental control applications. This is absolutely not true. Here in the UK schools are swarming with ipads and shit like that. They're given to primary school children because they're "more engaging". Children are supposed to practice their reading and even handwriting[1] on ipads. Naturally they're on youtube instead. It's really bad. As far as…

This is true but then why regulate every website instead of regulating... The schools

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Post by [deleted] »

themafia wrote: post #130
bigDinosaur wrote: post #120

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All discussion of foreign affairs is the discussion of domestic affairs somewhere.

So it seems normal that a bunch of politicians, in the current climate, got together and decided that the weakest form of age verification imaginable absolutely had to get passed everywhere? That's incomprehensible to me.

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Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Post by matheusmoreira »

charcircuit wrote: post #113
akersten wrote: post #5

Now this is what open source development should look like. I cannot believe a few days ago I was thumbing through an email thread on freedesktop.org about how they could implement the mandatory government API in dbus. Can they not read their own domain name?

Associating open source with projects that brazenly violate the law is not what open source should look like.

Unjust laws should be violated.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Post by simmerup »

sophrosyne42 wrote: post #56
simmerup wrote: post #25

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Are you talking about Epstein, or something else? Epstein largely built his network through word of mouth.

I’m talking about kids on discord and etc

It was a problem when I was younger and now it’s a bigger problem

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Post by usef- »

brightball wrote: post #45
nextos wrote: post #14

Something remarkable and unsettling is how the age verification debate has popped up almost simultaneously in the US, UK, and EU. With the same logical fallacies. Pretty telling about how transnational lobbies and their interests work. Controlling what children do online is a solved problem: Parenting and parental control applications.

It’s not if you’ve paid attention to political trends for the last 15 years. Everything is happening at the same time in every country. It’s clearly being coordinated.

Btw, it doesn't need to be actively coordinated for this to happen.

Building architectural styles used to be per city and now buildings look roughly the same worldwide. Style is dependent on the year built not the location.

Because every architect is "reading the same magazine" worldwide now that the internet exists, rather than debating in their own city.

Similar monoculture of global thought is happening in all fields.

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Post by user3939382 »

kybernetikos wrote: post #157

I don't want to give the impression that I don't find the whole direction of travel concerning, because I do, but as I understand it, the requirement is that the system administrator assigns ages to the users on their system. That seems pretty reasonable to me, and maybe even like a good idea in some scenarios. As far as I know, we aren't talking about software that fights against the interests of the system owner -…

It's a shim for a legal requirement to tie TPM to your license and then to all online activity and computing.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Post by ekjhgkejhgk »

singpolyma3 wrote: post #163
ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Controlling what children do online is a solved problem: Parenting and parental control applications. This is absolutely not true. Here in the UK schools are swarming with ipads and shit like that. They're given to primary school children because they're "more engaging". Children are supposed to practice their reading and even handwriting[1] on ipads. Naturally they're on youtube instead. It's really bad. As far as…

This is true but then why regulate every website instead of regulating... The schools

100% agree with you. I'm not arguing for regulating websites. In my scenario the schools are the actual problem. (EDIT: Actually, Meta and such companies are the actual problem, but in our world nobody expects that they have anybody's best interests in mind. But schools should.)

I was strictly only responding to the phrase "this is a solved problem you just have to parent".

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