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Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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While I believe Grok was a decent model (in some of our internal use cases it performed the best until Gemini 2.5-pro came out), I can't help lament how the team chose to run.

xAI (and Twitter) was the loudest about six-hour workdays, sleeping in the office, and always shipping. ~2 years later it feels like they have nothing to show for it. I'm sure the engineers at Google worked 4 days a week, 2 hours a day, with half of that being spent at the Google cafeteria and they dusted xAI years ago.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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post #134

I don't use it myself, but I feel like the way Grok is integrated into Twitter is a pretty good thing for discussions, as it is certainly a more objective and rational voice than most human participants. I think it's good that people tag @grok if they don't understand something or want an opinion, even if it looks pretty silly to see "@grok is this true" repeated multiple times in replies. That said, Musk's attempts…

Grok is a bot that:

1) sometimes goes mechahitler

2) was trained to be biased against empathy and understanding (because woke).

3) is customized to spout Elon's opinions as fact.

Claiming it is "objective and rational" seems like a misjudgement to me. If it really is more objective and rational than the average xitter poster, that says more about that platform than it does about Grok.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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You wouldn't want to work for a genius? Probably the most significant person alive today?

I can think of lots of significant people I wouldn't work for..

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

#164

While I believe Grok was a decent model (in some of our internal use cases it performed the best until Gemini 2.5-pro came out), I can't help lament how the team chose to run. xAI (and Twitter) was the loudest about six-hour workdays, sleeping in the office, and always shipping. ~2 years later it feels like they have nothing to show for it. I'm sure the engineers at Google worked 4 days a week, 2 hours a day, with ha…

> I'm sure the engineers at Google worked 4 days a week, 2 hours a day

Why are you sure of that? Anecdotally everyone I know in and around Google Deepmind works incredibly hard.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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post #120

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Have you considered the possibility that your opinion is just not representative of the scientific consensus?

Wikipedia does not care about scientific consensus. It just summarizes "reliable" secondary sources.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Many projects in his companies seem to be more and more Musk's vanity projects than ideas/products one can take seriously. This is also how tesla ended up with a huge cybertruck stock that nobody wants to buy and thus had to be bought by his other companies. And it is becoming worse and worse, especially ever since he bought twitter and sped up his twitting rates.

FWIW it looks there’s now a demand surge with the introduction of the new cheap cybertruck variant. delivery dates pushed out to the fall of 2026.

That was an artificial boost created by setting a time-limit for a low price. There were ten days to buy at the price, then they put it back up. [1]

[1] https://electrek.co/2026/03/01/tesla-cybertruck-awd-price-in...

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Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many projects in his companies seem to be more and more Musk's vanity projects than ideas/products one can take seriously. This is also how tesla ended up with a huge cybertruck stock that nobody wants to buy and thus had to be bought by his other companies. And it is becoming worse and worse, especially ever since he bought twitter and sped up his twitting rates.

FWIW it looks there’s now a demand surge with the introduction of the new cheap cybertruck variant. delivery dates pushed out to the fall of 2026.

A push on delivery dates is as likely to mean production issues as it is an influx of interest.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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post #46

[stub for generic-indignant tangents - not what this site is for - please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ]

These kind of HN submissions test how fair discussions can be here: > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. Reference: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Is it politics or ideology to recognize the flawed character of someone? How cultish his following is? His erratic behavior, the damage that he's doing?

Some people will cry "politics" just to take the voice away from those who dare to question their beloved celebrities.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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> Giant waste of time while Anthropic/OAI keep surging forward. And Google. They're quietly making a lot of progress in the coding space with antigravity and Gemini 3.1.

Has Antigravity gotten any better?

It has gotten worse and they tightened the limits for paying customers recently: https://x.com/antigravity/status/2031835833716625883 (only announcement on Twitter, not in the app nor via email)
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