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Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

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Post by FateOfNations »

bkummel wrote: post #99

I see comments about Swedish personal identification numbers. But the article is about source code that's leaked, not a database of numbers, right? I was thinking: should government source code not be open source anyway?

The same attackers are releasing the database of personal information separately (for a fee).

That said, Sweden takes a different approach to PII, so most of that information would have already been public. You can generally just look up any resident and their ID number and other biographical details in a public directory (among other things… their tax returns are also public records).

Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

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Post by Hikikomori »

heraldgeezer wrote: post #158
ROllerozxa wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I don't think anyone truly wants it to be like this. But it's just what happens. You of course cannot access and empty out someone's bank account this way, you're safe in that regard. But you need to dispute the invoices as soon as possible to show that it is fradulent, so you don't end up needing to actually pay for it. Or get debt collectors after you.

^ Never had this happen in my 30 years here so YMMW So don't take this poster by their word. Not saying it DOES NOT happen as it is a system not made for the internet. But widespread? It is not.

Never happened to anyone I know either.

Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

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Post by Hikikomori »

heraldgeezer wrote: post #131
ROllerozxa wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh yes. I'm Swedish and I do have to admit I have looked up quite a lot of people on these kinds of sites. It's become so normalised to do this even though I also feel like it would be better as a whole if they just did not exist in the first place. Last update I heard about something being done about it was this: https://www.regeringen.se/pressmeddelanden/2024/11/utredning... Not sure what the current status is.

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>Why are minorities so protected? :)

Because it's the law, and it's a good thing as governments and people tend to use violence against minorities. Don't like it? Move to a more racist country like Israel.

Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

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Post by kivle »

deepsun wrote: post #151
valzam wrote: post #143

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Uff, COBOL written in Norwegian, talk about a narrow target to hit for hiring :)

I see mostly Java/Kotlin and Maven. Pretty modern stack. I would start a government service using those today.

He is probably talking about this repo: https://github.com/navikt/DSF

Description translated:

> This system was one of the oldest IT systems in NAV, and ran in production for 51 years, from when the National Insurance Scheme was introduced in 1967. In January 2018, Presys was put into production, which together with Pesys became the successor to DSF. At that point, DSF was also shut down. The system is written in PL/I.

It's like the Apollo 11 code, but for social services.

Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

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Post by heraldgeezer »

Hikikomori wrote: post #163
heraldgeezer wrote: post #131

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>Why are minorities so protected? :) Because it's the law, and it's a good thing as governments and people tend to use violence against minorities. Don't like it? Move to a more racist country like Israel.

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Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

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Post by Hikikomori »

heraldgeezer wrote: post #165
Hikikomori wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Why are minorities so protected? :) Because it's the law, and it's a good thing as governments and people tend to use violence against minorities. Don't like it? Move to a more racist country like Israel.

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Svensk, anti Zionist, and proudly so. I'm not anti west, though I see all the bad shit we do to the world.

Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

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Post by heraldgeezer »

Hikikomori wrote: post #166
heraldgeezer wrote: post #165

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Svensk, anti Zionist, and proudly so. I'm not anti west, though I see all the bad shit we do to the world.

Tidö have been going strong and are just starting to clean up our country. I hope they win again but I fear we have another disaster government next election.

I have a job and money so I will not be personally affected but if the left wins MP and V will dictate and it will be 2015 all over again. I do hope their voters take the brunt of the damage up close and personal that is to come from their own votes to this country.

Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

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Post by heraldgeezer »

weirdmantis69 wrote: post #168
Hikikomori wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Svensk, anti Zionist, and proudly so. I'm not anti west, though I see all the bad shit we do to the world.

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Yes, sadly, and a lot of it is MENA migrants. But that should be no surprise if you have any experience of the world and Sweden.

I think you are trying to be funny, but I am serious.

>“First, before 2015 it was not acceptable to talk about antisemitism which came from immigrant groups from the Middle-East. This made members of the Jewish community feel abandoned. Sweden has now changed and it’s now possible to talk about it and deal with the problem”, Kahn Nord says

> “antisemitism has long been a weapon of regimes in the Middle East, where it is deeply rooted, openly expressed, and legitimized. The spread of this type of propaganda via the internet by regimes such as Iran has contributed to the globalization of this hatred. Recently, it was revealed that the Iranian regime is suspected of having planned to murder Swedish Jews, among them Aron Verständig, the chair of the Official Council of Swedish Jewish Communities (Judiska Centralrådet). According to the Swedish Security Services (Säpo), Iran has also recruited Swedish criminal networks to carry out attacks against Israeli and Jewish targets. The Swedish National Centre for Terrorist Threat Assessment (NCT) has reported that the biggest terror threats in Sweden come from violent Islamists and right-wing extremists, which both have Jews and Jewish institutions as some of their primary targets”.

https://k-larevue.com/en/2025/05/22/sweden/

You like this I bet.

https://jcfa.org/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-malmo-sweden-...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/sweden-reports-sharp-rise-in-a...

Official Swedish statistics from the National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå) show a clear rise in antisemitic hate crimes, increasing from 111 cases in 2022 to 217 in 2024 (doubling their share of all hate crimes to 8%), with a sharp surge (>450%) to 110 reports in late 2023 following the October 7 Hamas attack. This increase correlates with large-scale immigration from Arab and Middle Eastern countries, where antisemitic attitudes are significantly higher (e.g., ADL surveys show ~74% prevalence in MENA vs. low native Swedish levels). Multiple studies and reports, including Brå analyses and victim perceptions, indicate that perpetrators are often from Middle Eastern immigrant backgrounds, with spikes tied to Israel-related conflicts and imported attitudes, though not all immigrants are involved.

Key sources:

Brå report on antisemitic hate crime (2025): https://bra.se/english/publications/archive/2025-08-29-antis...

Brå hate crimes 2024 statistics: https://bra.se/english/publications/archive/2026-01-26-hate-...

European Jewish Congress on 2024 increase: https://eurojewcong.org/news/communities-news/sweden/accordi...

FRA EU survey on Jewish experiences in Sweden (2024, pre-Oct 2023 data showing high perceptions): https://fra.europa.eu/sites/default/files/fra_uploads/fra-20...

(Sweden country sheet: https://fra.europa.eu/sites/default/files/fra_uploads/antise...)

Older Brå report noting Middle Eastern perpetrator backgrounds: https://bra.se/download/18.3808406a192bd2f0b724059/173028344...

Various analyses linking to immigration (e.g., Wikipedia summary, JCPA articles, US State Dept reports citing surveys).

Re: Source code of Swedish e-government services has been leaked

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Post by noosphr »

latexr wrote: post #100
noosphr wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a feature not a bug.

That depends entirely on what the records hold and who is interpreting the event.

Yes, who could ever care about German birth records from the 1700s in 1933?
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