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Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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But would you be more productive in person? I am just describing my experience. In a 4 hour block, people will ask a dozen questions in-person. WFH, I'm lucky to get a single phone call despite begging them to call to ask questions.

I entered the workforce during covid, underwent a return to office mandate only to get a new job that is fully WFH. I am easily twice as productive in my own hive than I am in the office. The office is full of distractions, noise, it is not as ergonomic as my setup at home and i get to waste 90min a day commuting. In some very specific instances i see value in going to the office, productivity during everyday work is…

I know what you mean. I'm not sure why my office doesnt have distractions. We take breaks, but its not like when I was at a fortune 20 company where I'd spend an hour drinking coffee and catching up with people in other departments.

If I had to guess, we are such a small office that its obvious if someone is distracted and I can nudge them back to work.

Saying all of this outloud, you are making me realize I have the office style of a panopticon. At least my workers seem to genuinely like working.

Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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But would you be more productive in person? I am just describing my experience. In a 4 hour block, people will ask a dozen questions in-person. WFH, I'm lucky to get a single phone call despite begging them to call to ask questions.

I'm not sure that counting "How it's going?" as a productivity stat is the win you think it is.

When they say 'stuck...' and we fix a problem, I'd count that as a win.

Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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I've long said that WFH is an easy win climate change solution that costs nothing, is well loved by everyone who participates (except management). Turns out in times like this, it's also an energy security measure.

I know it's a meme on HN to say everyone likes WFH, but I (and many but not ICs around me) thrive more in person. I am 100% more effective in person where I can dev and my desk and bounce ideas off if team mates around me verbally. This can be recreated in a remote environment by having things like a team Discord that folks sit on, but it can feel forced at times (just like communiting to the office I suppose). My ta…

I hate WFH, personally. My company is actually closing the office I work out of due to lack of use, so I'm in the opposite scenario from "forced-RTO", I'm being moved to "forced-WFH." It's the right call objectively, the office is genuinely very empty, but I'm a bit annoyed about it. I'm actually going to be paying to rent a desk out of a coworking facility so I don't have to WFH. If this situation sucks, there's a real chance I'll be changing jobs later this year because of this.

Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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My favorite is when people say they like "asian cuisine" or "asian food". China alone has several distinct cuisines. Why do we act like this is a monolithic concept?

Globally, everyone does this. When someone outside of America thinks of American food, do you think they will think of Cajun gumbo, TexMex, Clam Chowder, or something you'd find on the menu at McDonalds?

I thought that McDonald's was considered Scottish cuisine?

Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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It's too bad that countries only consider things like this to address a crisis in fuel costs. Why not enact measures like this to curb the pollution and CO2? I guess it says a lot about what humanity truly values.

"Leave the petro-billionaires alone!" Seems to be the driving force Imagine if the world had aggressively invested in renewables at any time in the past ten years!

Cheap and efficient solar power didn't seem to require any actual breakthroughs or real investment. Maybe better power electronics for inverters and things? Batteries are a real issue but storage could have been totally ignored for a while.

So, maybe when Carter put those (thermal) solar collectors on the White House we should have thrown a hundred billion dollars at solar panel work and had abundant solar power decades ago.

But no, Carter was "weak" so we had to instead elect the guy who ignored AIDS because he hated gay people, pushed absurd drug policy, put us in bed with the middle east, and started the process of removing taxes from any rich person and racking up national debt for stupid reasons.

Why was Carter "weak"? Well you see, Iran was a huge Bad Guy that we needed to stop!

Oh.

Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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I've long said that WFH is an easy win climate change solution that costs nothing, is well loved by everyone who participates (except management). Turns out in times like this, it's also an energy security measure.

It's bad for the EcOnOmY, less wear and tear in cars, less jobs for mechanics, less gas consumed, less lunch bought in fast food chain, &c.

The entire system is designed around making the numbers go up, not down

Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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I know it's a meme on HN to say everyone likes WFH, but I (and many but not ICs around me) thrive more in person. I am 100% more effective in person where I can dev and my desk and bounce ideas off if team mates around me verbally. This can be recreated in a remote environment by having things like a team Discord that folks sit on, but it can feel forced at times (just like communiting to the office I suppose). My ta…

I pretty much dislike WFH and for many of the reasons you mention and more, so took a local in-office job last year after being at home since COVID. I was excited to return to a more social environment until I found that "the office" itself was itself entirely problematic. Cheapass flatpack desks all rammed in together. No noise or sound proofing, giant sweatshop room. Sub-par monitors and equipment generally. Grumpy…

> No noise or sound proofing, giant sweatshop room

My kingdom for an office with a ceiling, lmao. The exposed ductwork cheap-ass offices are so awful.

Re: Asian governments roll out 4-day weeks, WFH to solve fuel crisis caused by war

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I pretty much dislike WFH and for many of the reasons you mention and more, so took a local in-office job last year after being at home since COVID. I was excited to return to a more social environment until I found that "the office" itself was itself entirely problematic. Cheapass flatpack desks all rammed in together. No noise or sound proofing, giant sweatshop room. Sub-par monitors and equipment generally. Grumpy…

> No noise or sound proofing, giant sweatshop room My kingdom for an office with a ceiling, lmao. The exposed ductwork cheap-ass offices are so awful.

As an old guy who used to make fun of them for their sterility when I was young...

I'd just like cubicles back.

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