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The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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Post by xorvoid »

amiantos wrote: post #51

Why is it being called dead internet theory when, as far as I can tell, what's really happening is that big centralized systems are being overrun with bots? The internet existed and was pretty great before these large centralized systems came into being. Anyone can still run a blog/website, and/or their own discourse server. There's no need to mourn for these centralized systems that largely existed only to exploit u…

I generally agree with this, but I think the small internet hasn't succeeded in building social replacements for the "centralized systems". The internet is a social technology. So for this to be viable, the small internet needs an answer.

Occasionally, someone mentions RSS as a solution. That's only a small component of the solution.

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Post by zedlasso »

amiantos wrote: post #51

Why is it being called dead internet theory when, as far as I can tell, what's really happening is that big centralized systems are being overrun with bots? The internet existed and was pretty great before these large centralized systems came into being. Anyone can still run a blog/website, and/or their own discourse server. There's no need to mourn for these centralized systems that largely existed only to exploit u…

it was originally called zombie web but that didn't catch so it turned into this.

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Post by glimshe »

jasondigitized wrote: post #130
amiantos wrote: post #51

Why is it being called dead internet theory when, as far as I can tell, what's really happening is that big centralized systems are being overrun with bots? The internet existed and was pretty great before these large centralized systems came into being. Anyone can still run a blog/website, and/or their own discourse server. There's no need to mourn for these centralized systems that largely existed only to exploit u…

Bring back BBS. Getting into the good ones was a process back in the day.

BBSs have been in theory replaced, but in reality they haven't even been approached by modern social media. Small forums full of dedicated users, often local. So many great memories.

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Post by ramses0 »

selfsimilar wrote: post #94
geek_at wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

reminds me of Bill Gates in the 90s when asked about email spam. He said it would make sense to make an email cost like 1 cent so the spammers can't spam as much but this didn't sit right with the mindset of the people at the time.

Hashcash was a proof-of-work system that would have put a computational tax on email. I don't know what kept it from getting more traction other than simple chicken-and-egg network effects, but it's a good idea, and worth resurrecting. http://www.hashcash.org

Email2000 is the only answer: https://cr.yp.to/im2000.html

TLDR: Mail storage is the sender's responsibility. The message isn't copied to the receiver. All the receiver needs is a brief notification that a message is available.

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Post by abcde666777 »

For a while video was a holdout of sorts - e.g. if someone posted video content of themselves or their voice you could trust a real person was behind it.

But now convincing fake video generation is easily accessible, so one more holdout stands to fall.

It does seem like some kind of ID system is going to be the only way. Sucky but inevitable.

I often have the following thought: technological advancement, for all its boons, inevitably leads down destructive roads in the long run. Sooner or later we open a pandora's box.

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