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If OF managements can't see what's coming, I think it's well deserved.
Hell, there are even cases of only fans models being entirely AI. photo, video and chat entirely made by ai.
I mean at this point you're better getting a chatgpt subscription, right ?
If you want to directly address this chatter's grievances, the going rate for most chatters is $3+/hour + commissions. I won't share links but this can be found via Telegram or Google. ~$500/mo base is pretty good for the Philippines when call centers make you work 6 days a week for the same price without commission.
I question tech community integrity because they will constantly attack Meta or Microsoft for aggressive anti-privacy, Uber for exploitative rates & policies but turn a blind eye to how corrosive & exploitative OF and PornHub are. Maybe because they are subscribers? Why aren't we collectively trying to shut down smut?
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God that's depressing. Even when you _pay_ for human connection you're being fobbed off onto an AI
To pay for a human connection, take someone out for a dinner, and foot the bill. At OnlyFans you're paying for a video feed, and computers are pretty good at producing convincing video feeds now.
Then they can prominently state the chat is not with the actual creator, or they can go to jail for fraud. This "oh they say they're providing you X but you're actually paying for Y" argument is getting even more tiresome than the "fraud is so widespread why worry about it" one.
This has never made sense and I'm convinced these "creators" are a front for money laundering.
> She would be set targets to earn the model hundreds of dollars worth of sales of pictures and videos during her shift. So lets assume $300 per shift, so with an 8 hour shift, that would be about $37.50/hour of merchandise per hour. So the workers makes about 5.3%. Google says standard for sales workers paid on comission normally get 5-10%. So its possible this is within what would be normal for a low end non-salary…
Why? Why do the math on someone else’s misery? What is the best case scenario you could have ended with?
The best case scenario you could end with would be that they are not being economically exploited. The worst case scenario would be that they are hopelessly being exploited. The truth seems to be that on a pure economic level they are being exploited about as much as your average low wage worker in capitalism in a poorer country (which is a significant amount of exploitation) but its not quite extreme level of exploitation as the article implies. However, you also have to somehow account for the ickyness/mental affects of the job and its unclear how to do that.
And yes, i believe its important to do the math on human suffering. That is how we make a better world. Not all claims of suffering are equal. The millionaire techbro sad he cant afford a private jet is not sufering in the same way as someone who is struggling to pay for a meal. We distinguish the cases by doing the math.
> The most popular creators on the platform claim to earn millions of dollars per month. This has never made sense and I'm convinced these "creators" are a front for money laundering.
Perception is definitely slanted in that only the top few percent make the big bucks but I have zero doubt that they make millions
Somewhat unrelated but I won’t be surprised if we eventually find out a lot of OnlyFans revenue is money laundering.
Doubtful, there are other, less-well known pay-for-content platforms than take a smaller percentage cut than onlyfans. It wouldn't make any sense for a launderer to use the most expensive platform.
Average wages in the Phillipines are around $360/month USD, so $2/hr isn't too bad for an easy job. BBC is playing rage-bait arbitrage with that headline.