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Yoghurt delivery women combatting loneliness in Japan

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the kind of detached from humanity viewpoint that I come to hacker news for. Keep it up.

Lots of startup opportunities here. Instead solving the problem, just make a product that convinces people it’s not actually a problem.

Ai powered metaverse on the blockchain.

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I grew up on a small village in a small island. The yogurt lady was an essential part of the community. Many stay-at-home moms (including my mom) seemed to enjoy her visit. She and my mom talked a lot, sometimes for hours (I still can't figure out how she completed her job when she spent so much time with one person). They chatted about recent events, like the daughter of the fisherman gave birth, the great-grandpa o…

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Did you not read the parent? Talking through your problems with another human being alleviates the feeling of loneliness.

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What kind of wonky article is that please? > a network of women delivering probiotic milk drinks has become a vital source of routine, connection and care. So, yoghurt deliveries will fix the loneliness problem in Japan? Seriously? Are the people at BBC drunk? You only need to watch some youtube videos to realise that what BBC writes, is narrating things very oddly. Yoghurt deliveries will NOT fix the issue of isolat…

You are missing the point entirely. It's about how retaining human exposure in the societal loops is playing a vital role in keeping people connected and engaged. I'm an European living in Thailand and I see this difference first hand - the auntie doing local food deliveries or uncle selling food from a cart really connect people a billion times more than a super market would.

My long term prediction is that we we'll be taking curator-like roles much more seriously due to automation, as having human in the loop is not only needed for debugging automation issues but maintaining healthy society loops as well.

This is not a new argument either. Since the inception of cities we know that connection is being lost in extreme efficiency. Ladies delivering yogurt is just trading efficiency for connection.

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English is not my main language but this title confuses me

Yoghurt delivery women is the subject of the sentence and it's about women who deliver yoghurts.

...and yoghurt is not an euphemism in this case, as much as the mentions of loneliness and Japan would make it seem like that.

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“The yoghurt delivery women combatting loneliness in Minnesota” HN’s interest in this article is so “thing vs Japanese thing”

That trope only applies if the non-Japanese version of the thing exists. Which, if you live in the US, it doesn't. I would be just as interested in an article about Minnesota yogurt delivery women, but they don't exist, so...

>That trope only applies if the non-Japanese version of the thing exists

It does. These kind of small scale food delivery services exist both in charitable and commercial form across North America and Europe. I know several "Meals on Wheels" workers who are basically half-timing as social service workers.

This is the stereotypical weekly "bucolic Japanese neighborhood social life" story that does actually exist in every place.

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I grew up on a small village in a small island. The yogurt lady was an essential part of the community. Many stay-at-home moms (including my mom) seemed to enjoy her visit. She and my mom talked a lot, sometimes for hours (I still can't figure out how she completed her job when she spent so much time with one person). They chatted about recent events, like the daughter of the fisherman gave birth, the great-grandpa o…

> The only downside was anything you shared with her would be spread in the entire village before dawn

It's a better service than FB or Instagram that depress because people only show their good sides there... As you said, she was an essential part of the community ;-)

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I grew up on a small village in a small island. The yogurt lady was an essential part of the community. Many stay-at-home moms (including my mom) seemed to enjoy her visit. She and my mom talked a lot, sometimes for hours (I still can't figure out how she completed her job when she spent so much time with one person). They chatted about recent events, like the daughter of the fisherman gave birth, the great-grandpa o…

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This is a bit concerning. Did you skip everything besides "yogurt delivery", or you don't agree someone talking to you regularly is counter-loneliness?

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I grew up on a small village in a small island. The yogurt lady was an essential part of the community. Many stay-at-home moms (including my mom) seemed to enjoy her visit. She and my mom talked a lot, sometimes for hours (I still can't figure out how she completed her job when she spent so much time with one person). They chatted about recent events, like the daughter of the fisherman gave birth, the great-grandpa o…

> The only downside was anything you shared with her would be spread in the entire village before dawn It's a better service than FB or Instagram that depress because people only show their good sides there... As you said, she was an essential part of the community ;-)

> It's a better service than FB or Instagram that depress because people only show their good sides there...

Sadly it's not only that. Social networks are "half-duplex" where you most likely to broadcast or consume at a time. it's not a true dialog. it made FOMO a thing. and worse, it's not only used for showing good, But it's being used to make complicated world events into bite-size good/bad dividing humanity instead of embracing and considering the complexity.

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I grew up on a small village in a small island. The yogurt lady was an essential part of the community. Many stay-at-home moms (including my mom) seemed to enjoy her visit. She and my mom talked a lot, sometimes for hours (I still can't figure out how she completed her job when she spent so much time with one person). They chatted about recent events, like the daughter of the fisherman gave birth, the great-grandpa o…

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Maybe get some help. People don’t construe an innocent life sharing in this hostile way

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Every time I read an article about people trying to solve the 'loneliness epidemic' I can't help but wonder if we're not trying to solve the wrong problem. Maybe the solution should not be sought in trying to increase social connections but in eliminating our need for social contact. This dependence on other humans has always felt like a flaw to me. Note that I'm not saying that human contact is bad, just that our pa…

have you ever been by yourself for more than a few weeks ? you would find out that even you need to see people after having spent enough time alone. and it hurts if you're unable to see people when you feel that urge. it's a real human need
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