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Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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This is awful. That a disagreement tjat involves politics can make a company ruined is really awful. The civil society should be quite concerned about this kind of attacks.

It opens the door for Democratic administrations to do the same to vendors for their own political reasons. That’s ultimately why Ted Cruz spoke out about the Kimmel cancelation. It doesn’t take long until those powers are turned against you.

I love when a Republican does something awful the response is "but what about if Democrats do that same awful thing to us!" as opposed to discussing and admitting that the Republicans did something awful.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let‘s ignore all the bad things they have done since that, including killing two US citizens.

Even if you don't like the current administration, the rank and file are still out there doing valuable work. The government is more than ICE; it also administers welfare, funds research, collects taxes, and distributes social security payments to the old and infirm.

Easy enough to slap a “not for military or police use” clause on the license, then. Oh, what’s that? They don’t want to do that?

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Exported all my chats and deleted my ChatGPT account yesterday. The current administration not liking you is the strongest signal I could possibly have to go all in on a particular company.

Asked for an export but still haven’t received the mail with the download link

Took exactly 24 hours for me, on the minute..

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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The US Military's demand that the product they purchase is able to be used for all lawful purposes seems pretty reasonable, and is really the only valid line to draw. Forcing one's own ethics onto the military's use of your product is nonsensical on its face.

If I produce and sell widgets in my widget shop, then nobody but me gets to decide how I make those widgets. The government can come into my shop and order sixty thousand widgets built exactly the way they say they want them built, and it may be something that doesn't run afoul of any laws at all. But that doesn't mean that I am required or compelled to build widgets their way -- or at all. I'm free to tell them to f…

And that’s what’s happening here. The government is telling Anthropic to fuck off and they are finding someone else

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

#165

Exported all my chats and deleted my ChatGPT account yesterday. The current administration not liking you is the strongest signal I could possibly have to go all in on a particular company.

Don't get too attached. We're witnessing capitalism in its most ruthless form. Any of these companies will discard their principles the moment it becomes existential.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

#166

These bullies wilt when everyone stands up in one voice. But when some parties capitulate (OpenAI), it sets a precedent that this behavior is OK. And then it’s not long until you become the target.

I’m not sure that’s how billionaires think.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

#167

This is awful. That a disagreement tjat involves politics can make a company ruined is really awful. The civil society should be quite concerned about this kind of attacks.

“Concerned” is an understatement. USA is already operating at nazi Germany levels and more than half of the civil society is approving. Not that it’s a surprise for global spectators though - it’s finally showing it’s true colors.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

#168

Exported all my chats and deleted my ChatGPT account yesterday. The current administration not liking you is the strongest signal I could possibly have to go all in on a particular company.

If Anthropic changes course will you move to Gemini? If all models do, local llama I assume?

Anthropic, Google and the rest of them are all just as bad.

Local LLMs gives you the freedom to use a model without a third-party vendor which is the whole point here.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Because it's not a military asset? It's a privately-owned asset.

> Because it's not a military asset? It's a privately-owned asset. Are you under the impression that the military is submitting Anthropic API calls? Whatever model the military is using is as much of an asset as the F35 they purchased. Depending on their agreements, you could argue it's a rented asset. Doesn't change any calculus.

> Depending on their agreements, you could argue it's a rented asset. Doesn't change any calculus.

I think your mistakenly thinking of it as an asset. It's not as asset like a house, it's a service. They have a service contract. They have uptime and SLA commitments. That contract has parameters, and changing those parameters means a new contract.

A similar service would be signing up a private company to do intelligence gathering and analysis for the DoD in Asia. They find a company that specializes in Asia and sign a contract. They give them work and the contractors fulfill it. Coming back and saying "we want you now to give us analysis for important decisions in South America." The company would reasonably reply "we don't have the skills to do that in South America. Our team knows nothing about South Am, we're no better than someone off the street at that. There is no credibility behind anything we'd say about South America. And on top our contract was foe Asia". If we want to discuss a plan for hiring people for South Am let's discuss it, but that's a new contract." And then the DoD saying they're a supply chain risk makes no sense.

Or if you want an even more and hyperbolic example they cant take those data analysis to and say we're sending them ti the front lines of Iran. The company say no, and the DoD replying "you're a supply chain risk". They are not renting people, they are signing for a service of data analysis. Similarly they are not renting hardware they are signing for an LLM/intelligence service.

Re: Pentagon formally labels Anthropic supply-chain risk

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Exported all my chats and deleted my ChatGPT account yesterday. The current administration not liking you is the strongest signal I could possibly have to go all in on a particular company.

Don't get too attached. We're witnessing capitalism in its most ruthless form. Any of these companies will discard their principles the moment it becomes existential.

We are quite literally witnessing someone taking a massive hit for not discarding their principles.

Evergreen dril: "The wise man bowed his head and said 'there's no difference between good things and bad things you imbecile'"

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