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Re: The Xkcd thing, now interactive

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Post by pierrec »

panzi wrote: post #4

Register the mousemove event handler on window, then you will still get the events when the mouse moves out of the window/frame while dragging and it won't be that buggy.

Come on, HN, you can't let this information stay under the front page for 13 hours and everyone's like "ah yes of course". Please don't register the mousemove event handler on window, that old school hack never really worked and was obsoleted 10 years ago when the pointer API became standard.

Things are much nicer now and the problem is entirely avoided by using pointer events: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Element/set...

Re: The Xkcd thing, now interactive

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Post by jpease »

rcxdude wrote: post #158
zahlman wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do satellite networks not move the needle in terms of capacity/reliability now?

The capacity of satellite networks is minuscule compared to that of undersea fibre optics.

Plus still have to contend with the space sharks.

Re: The Xkcd thing, now interactive

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Post by dijit »

Hamuko wrote: post #82
rtkwe wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The undersea cables actually connecting the entire internet. Sometimes sharks just take a bite of them, they're reasonable well protected but it's enough damage to cause outages and disruptions. It's the single pin under everything because there are a limited number of those cables especially in some regions so a single shark can take out the entire internet for some countries. http://www.mirceakademy.com/uploads/MSA…

I feel like having them as a single brick is a bit hyperbolic, since undersea cables are pretty redundant in most of the world. Get rid of one and traffic just routes around it. Ships have been routinely destroying cables in the Gulf of Finland and the Baltic Sea in the past couple of years without causing significant disruptions.

"most of the world" is doing a seriously large amount of heavy lifting in this sentence.

There are many regions that are served by a single line, more than you think.

Even "well connected" places have fewer cables than you expect, and the frustrating thing is that you don't know that you can route around an issue until you try.

BGP is really resilient, which is great, but if your path is not clear then you'll only realise it when the failover doesn't happen, you'll think there's a redundant path.

Re: The Xkcd thing, now interactive

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Post by gzread »

rtkwe wrote: post #143
rtkwe wrote: post #115

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No. They're not setup to be a principal route between two nations and most satellite networks until very recently didn't even route messages through other satellites but instead retransmitted them to a ground station with access to hardline internet. Even Starlink mostly does this still because it's way cheaper and easier.

You can see an unofficial tracker [0] of the Starlink downlink network and see how outside of some rural areas your data is only moving a few tens of miles away most of the time before it's sent down to a ground system. Their sats have 3 200 Gbps laser communicators for intra constellation routing which is pretty small for the task of replacing fiber optic links. [0] https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1805q6rle…

God, those nicknames. The Algo of Power GW (gateway?) the Pew Pew GW? Elon chose these.

Re: The Xkcd thing, now interactive

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Post by rtkwe »

gzread wrote: post #166
rtkwe wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can see an unofficial tracker [0] of the Starlink downlink network and see how outside of some rural areas your data is only moving a few tens of miles away most of the time before it's sent down to a ground system. Their sats have 3 200 Gbps laser communicators for intra constellation routing which is pretty small for the task of replacing fiber optic links. [0] https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1805q6rle…

God, those nicknames. The Algo of Power GW (gateway?) the Pew Pew GW? Elon chose these.

It's all so pick me. Like his insistence that he's a top level gamer.
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