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Pebble Production: February Update

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Re: Pebble Production: February Update

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Post by apparent »

jolmg wrote: post #143
poisonborz wrote: post #72

So the Pebble Duo was a one time thing based on the cache of old parts they found? Why... A lot of people would like a cheap small thin plastic watch. Most fans went after Amazfit Blips after Pebble went out for a reason.

> So the Pebble Duo was a one time thing The Time 2 too: > Both are available in limited quantities, with worldwide shipping. Prices are in USD. Pre-ordering is the only way to get one --- https://ericmigi.com/blog/introducing-two-new-pebbleos-watch...

Not quite the same: the Duo won't ever be made again, since the leftover parts are now all gone. The PT2 could be made again, but there is no guarantee.

My guess is there will at least be periodic runs, and people will just buy a watch if they anticipate needing one in the next year or two based on battery trajectory, for example.

Re: Pebble Production: February Update

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chias wrote: post #140
apparent wrote: post #111

Sorry to see the timing slip once again, now from March to April. I get that hardware manufacturing involves uncertainty and risk, but they've been off launching new products instead of getting these out the door. The delay from December to April is pretty sizable, and it makes me take all of their current estimates with a huge grain of salt. After all, they might decide to launch a necklace between now and then!

I don't know and can't speak for the team, but I suspect the "launching new products" is not a significant factor in the delays. It sounds to me like the delays are as a result of hardware manufacturing things (which maybe could/should have been planned for, but optimistically weren't), and that basically the alternative for the hardware folks would be a series of "sit on your hands for a couple weeks, then respond t…

I considered that possibility, and if they were just adding in the PTR launch I could understand. But expanding into a totally different product line seems like it would take up a lot of time, and is surely slowing things down.

Given that the Chinese holiday is falling right in the middle of production and delaying things by over a month, it seems like they could have focused more on the PT2 and gotten it out the door sooner.

My guess is that once they realized they couldn't finish the run before the holiday, they gave up on trying to even start mass production before then. But like you, I'm just speculating from the outside.

Re: Pebble Production: February Update

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Post by KeepFlying »

lopis wrote: post #155
CodesInChaos wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does that work? I assume these APIs use SSL, which should prevent such MitM attacks. Are those Apps using the system SSL library which bypasses certificate validation for those domains? Or does the OS add a Root CA to the certificate store which signs fake certificates for those domains?

I suppose it's because pebble apps use the Pebble SDK, so the SDK can MITM any comms. The Pebble is not connecting directly to the Internet right?

I forget the shape of the API but the pebble requests resources over Bluetooth and the mobile app actually makes the requests so it should be able to rewrite anything before/after a request easily.

Re: Pebble Production: February Update

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Post by bronlund »

Fnoord wrote: post #54
qwertox wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"programmable smartwatch from China" can you share some examples?

There's so many these days. Just have a look at AliExpress. There were various KS/IGG campaigns, too. One thing which kind of stood out was a smartwatch remote with what I will summarize as 'Flipper Zero capabilities'. I think I saw it on Etsy. It looked terrible though. For red teaming, you'd want something which looks professional, and blends in. Ideally with a watchface as, ehh.. 'screensaver'.

The Deauther Watch?

Re: Pebble Production: February Update

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Post by Fnoord »

bronlund wrote: post #164
Fnoord wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's so many these days. Just have a look at AliExpress. There were various KS/IGG campaigns, too. One thing which kind of stood out was a smartwatch remote with what I will summarize as 'Flipper Zero capabilities'. I think I saw it on Etsy. It looked terrible though. For red teaming, you'd want something which looks professional, and blends in. Ideally with a watchface as, ehh.. 'screensaver'.

The Deauther Watch?

Yeah, that is it. Dstike Deauther Watch / Travis Lin, on Tindie. I haven't tried it, but that is the one I was referring to. They got several iterations.

Re: Pebble Production: February Update

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Post by bronlund »

folmar wrote: post #148
bronlund wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007059416132.html

_This item does not exist_ Please post the item title, aliexpress links tend to be short-lived

It was just a link to that same Watchy I have mentioned elsewhere. Check the link in my original reply for a list of multiple ones.

Re: Pebble Production: February Update

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Post by Markoff »

apparent wrote: post #160
Markoff wrote: post #149

looks nice, I am wearing Amazfit Bip for like 8+ years, now on my third one (1st usual issue whole body popped up, 2nd got swollen battery after damaged glass and being exposed to water), the only problem I have with these Pebble watches - they are way too expensive compared to original Amazfit Bip years ago (which I can still buy used for like 15-20EUR and charge it once a month) and their battery life seems to be w…

What is the battery life on your 2 year old amazfit bip that exceeds a month?

as I said I charge it roughly once a month, it ain't for sure 40 days as if it was brand new, but not that much deterioration
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