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Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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Post by barnabee »

fl0ki wrote: post #144
barnabee wrote: post #79

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I still haven’t felt much urge to upgrade my 64gb MacBook Pro M1 Max. The biggest issue I have with it is macOS Tahoe. Guess I really should be checking out Asahi on it!

It's really nice springing for 64G RAM and being increasingly glad you did for every year that passes. (And this year more than most)

It's always come in handy for containers/VMs (and I assume compiling Rust, as it uses as much of every other resource as it can get it's hands on) but yeah, being able to run actually useful local LLMs on my now >4 year old machine has been fantastic.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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Post by FireBeyond »

agildehaus wrote: post #156
Tuna-Fish wrote: post #101

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> I believe used M1/M2 machines will be favored by young developers as their personal fun laptop in a few years I doubt it. For one, the SSDs have limited lifespans, and are soldered on the mainboard. They'll be fine enough for the planned life of the laptop, but eventually secondary market laptops will start seeing waves of failures, at which point people learn that purchasing one is a gamble. The entire Apple silic…

The keyboard has a much shorter lifespan than the SSD, and it's incredibly difficult/expensive to replace. A single bad key or trace and any Apple laptop is basically toast. $800+ to have Apple replace the top cover. Maybe an independent shop can do it cheaper, I don't know.

Hah. Yes. Couple of drops of water on an an MBA... laptop worked fine. Battery, fine. Healthy. Charging circuit would not work. Perfectly functioning laptop on AC, but unable to be on battery because 0% charge.

Me, at Genius Bar, expecting you know, maybe $300 with parts and labor?

"Here's a quote, sir, we're looking at $850+tax, perhaps we should talk about getting you into a new Mac today?"

No. The laptop was primarily connected to AC anyway and only 18 months old, if that. Sorry, Apple.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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Post by rishav_sharan »

throw-qqqqq wrote: post #53
rishav_sharan wrote: post #49

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Sorry, typo. Meant macbook air m1.

Depends A LOT on what exactly you need for day to day usage. E.g. some have higher requirements than others.

Mostly good battery life. I am on the move a lot and can use a laptop with full day battery for mostly youtube and web dev.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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Post by _ph_ »

bigyabai wrote: post #108
_ph_ wrote: post #70

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Like which, especially with an ARM processor?

Your pick of the litter, if you intend to run Linux. Snapdragon laptops, Ampere desktops, or even a Raspberry Pi with an RTX 5090 if you wanted.

Which Snapdragon laptops can I buy which run Linux?

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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Post by _ph_ »

array_key_first wrote: post #139
_ph_ wrote: post #70

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Like which, especially with an ARM processor?

You don't need an arm processor, many modern x86 chips match or outcompete m series on power efficiency and performance. Mainly lunar lake gen 1 and the new gen 3 (arrow lake not really). The efficiency of arm chips was never arm, really, it was the manufacturing node and SOC design. Well, Intel and AMD can make SOCs, and they do.

There are reasons beyond pure power efficiency to use ARM processors. It is a nice architecture to work with, especially if you plan to write low-level code. Also, you might want to deploy on ARM servers.

Also, there is the question who in general makes Laptops as nice as a MB Air? Who makes a fan less laptop of roughly comparable power?

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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Post by pyreko »

hu3 wrote: post #149
zozbot234 wrote: post #109

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USB is a standard protocol, so Asahi should support USB WiFi adapters just fine. Is Bluetooth also impacted?

How many USB ports does a MBA M1 have? Now you have to walk around with a USB hub, for a subpar battery life.

I mean the person they're replying to is saying their current choice is they're stuck to a wired connection...

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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Post by pyreko »

freeAgent wrote: post #99
qdotme wrote: post #17

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Except they did with Wine, in a way. They got to the point where sufficient number of third party software developers target the common base between Wine and Windows (Steam/Proton), electing to have broader compatibility rather than catching all the newest Windows-only APIs. I wonder how much similar behavior influence other buying choices. I’ve been eyeing an upgrade from M1 for a while - so far punting on it, mostl…

They never got Office or any Adobe (or similar) apps working, which is a huge miss.

There was a PR for Adobe products a few weeks ago (https://github.com/ValveSoftware/wine/pull/310), though it seems like they're redirecting it to the main Wine repo now since it makes more sense there

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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Post by thisislife2 »

FireBeyond wrote: post #162
agildehaus wrote: post #156

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The keyboard has a much shorter lifespan than the SSD, and it's incredibly difficult/expensive to replace. A single bad key or trace and any Apple laptop is basically toast. $800+ to have Apple replace the top cover. Maybe an independent shop can do it cheaper, I don't know.

Hah. Yes. Couple of drops of water on an an MBA... laptop worked fine. Battery, fine. Healthy. Charging circuit would not work. Perfectly functioning laptop on AC, but unable to be on battery because 0% charge. Me, at Genius Bar, expecting you know, maybe $300 with parts and labor? "Here's a quote, sir, we're looking at $850+tax, perhaps we should talk about getting you into a new Mac today?" No. The laptop was prima…

Same here. Bought an Apple Keyboard a long time ago. Spilled some juice on it. Some keys stopped working. That's when I learnt that a $200+ Apple Keyboard isn't even water resistant unlike the previous $25-50+ keyboard I had. That was the first major red-flag about Apple I had. The soldered RAM and SSDs, and locked bootloaders on the Mac were the last straw. Will never purchase an Apple device again.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 6.19

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Post by plagiarist »

piloto_ciego wrote: post #82
ACS_Solver wrote: post #64

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I'm sure Apple has data showing that their extremely lockdown strategy is good for their business but I feel like I'm one of the potential customers Apple could gain if they didn't have that. They're a fantastic hardware company. But my admittedly very limited experience with Apple software, from iPad to their streaming service website, has been miserable. The UX doesn't work for me, the software just doesn't do what…

I doubt that any company actually cares about what any of the myriad of metrics they collect mean at the C-suite level. I mean, "maybe" I just think it is unlikely. I bet 9/10 times someone just makes a decision about how things "ought" to be and then that's the way it is going forward. The assumption that this is a triangulated and well researched strategy doesn't match my experience in "real-job" world. I mean, may…

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