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Amazon's Ring and Google's Nest reveal the severity of U.S. surveillance state

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Post by ironsmoke »

MontyCarloHall wrote: post #63
wordsunite wrote: post #32

I know it seems hard, but just stop using Google, Amazon, Meta products. Tell everyone you know to stop using their products. They have all been acquiring and amassing surveillance for years through their products and now they're just double dipping with AI training to sell you more of it. The more you can get people to realize and disconnect the better. I wish more people would use AI to build alternatives with a cl…

>I know it seems hard, but just stop using Google, Amazon, Meta products. I noticed your own app's website [0] hosts videos on YouTube [1] and uses Stripe as a payment processor [2], which is hosted on AWS. You also mentioned that your app is vibe coded [3]; the AI labs that facilitated your vibecoding likely built and run their models using Meta's PyTorch or Google's TensorFlow. "Just stop using" makes for a catchy…

Perfect is the enemy of good.

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Post by tootie »

alejohausner wrote: post #38

Glenn Greenwald is back on substack. Yay! For the past few years, he’s mostly done videos on rumble, and he’s fun to watch, but personally I prefer his writing. In case you’ve been under a rock for 10 years, Greenwald was the guy who published Snowden’s revelations. His focus has always been on censorship, surveillance, and hypocrisy in government.

Is he taking a break from being a mouthpiece for Russian propaganda?

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Post by kstrauser »

lqstuart wrote: post #84
embedding-shape wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Revealed: How Substack makes money from hosting Nazi newsletters If we're gonna judge authors for what platforms they're using, does that mean we're all bad guys here on HN too, since a lot of current misery is because of startups and technology companies who used to receive a lot praise here?

It's always fun reminding people that the internet was invented by the US military

And Tor was a US Navy project. What’s your point?

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Post by hugh-avherald »

WarmWash wrote: post #70
jb1991 wrote: post #50

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Compared to other major western countries, the US has a serious problem with violent crime in particular.

If you remove like 250sq mi of land from that stat you can cut the violent crime stat by 90%. There are some neighborhoods with more murders in a month than some whole states see in a couple years.

Can't you do that for any epsilon? (i.e. for every e > 0 there exists a area of the United States such that 90% of the crime is in an area < e)

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api wrote: post #23

He’s not wrong but screw Glenn Greenwald. I assume his solution will be to back the current or next strongman, because strongman rule will save us? It’s like the “don’t tread on me” militia crowd voting by like a 90% margin for a regime that is now enacting every single one of the things they’ve been afraid of for 50 years: masked cops, opaque detention centers, assaulting (and murdering) people for legally exercisin…

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

V__ wrote: post #34
baobabKoodaa wrote: post #17

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No marketing team would willingly do this and it's insane to think otherwise.

Of course, they would. If the administration asked Bezos, and he gets a benefit out of it. He will task his marketing team to come up with something which tries to frame it in a positive light. Knowing that even if a few people make a stink this will blow over eventually and when it rolls out, he can always say it is just about puppies and neighborhood security. Nobody cares.

> If the administration asked Bezos, and he gets a benefit out of it. He will task his marketing team

On what planet would the ask be marketing copy versus straight access?

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #18
baobabKoodaa wrote: post #17

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No marketing team would willingly do this and it's insane to think otherwise.

And yet this went up. I understand it’s easy to just say “marketing teams don’t understand anything,“ but I have worked with many and they are incredibly sensitive to negative feelings/reactions. They get it wrong but they tend to air on the side of caution which means the vast majority of the time they avoid situations like this incredibly intentionally.

> they get it wrong but they tend to air on the side of caution

Then this guy [1] walks into the room and says no, be bold, who could possibly object to my life's work, and he gets his way because he's signing the cheque.

[1] https://x.com/pavandavuluri/status/1987942909635854336

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Post by Forgeties79 »

Intermernet wrote: post #29
Forgeties79 wrote: post #18

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And yet this went up. I understand it’s easy to just say “marketing teams don’t understand anything,“ but I have worked with many and they are incredibly sensitive to negative feelings/reactions. They get it wrong but they tend to air on the side of caution which means the vast majority of the time they avoid situations like this incredibly intentionally.

>they tend to air on the side of caution Completely off topic, and for future reference, it's "err" not "air". Completely fine mistake, stupid homophones and all. Just thought you'd like to know. Also, these things happen to me all the time if I use voice dictation. I don't trust it because of edge cases like this.

Voice to text, should’ve proofread better

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Post by SoftTalker »

jasonjayr wrote: post #134
prmoustache wrote: post #128

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> [...] and he couldn't even pick up his kids without a gmail or apple account. How so?

A lot of schools use apps like 'ParentSquare' to interact and manage the student/teacher/parent relationship, and do not offer the same level of communication through traditional channels anymore.

This is because social media has trained today's young parents to be completely entitled assholes and teachers can only take so much of their abuse. What teacher is going to want to sit down for a conference with a parent who whips out a phone to record the meeting and then posts selectively edited excerpts online in order to get a few upvotes on a social platform.
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