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An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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post #126

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Also ironic: When the same professionals advocating "don't look at the code anymore" and "it's just the next level of abstraction" respond with outrage to a journalist giving them an unchecked article. Read through the comments here and mentally replace "journalist" with "developer" and wonder about the standards and expectations in play. Food for thought on whether the users who rely on our software might feel simil…

I look forward to a day when the internet is so uniformly fraudulent that we can set it aside and return to the physical plane.

I don't know if I look forward to it, myself, but yeah: I can imagine a future where in person interactions become preferred again because at least you trust the other person is human. Until that also stops being true, I guess.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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It's 100% that the bot is being heavily piloted by a person. Likely even copy pasting LLM output and doing the agentic part by hand. It's not autonomous. It's just someone who wants attention, and is getting lots of it.

Look at the actual bot's GitHub commits. It's just a bunch of blog posts that read like an edgy high schooler's musings on exclusion. After one tutorial level commit didn't go through.

This whole thing is theater, and I don't know why people are engaging with it as if it was anything else.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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For anyone curious I tried `llama-3.1-8b` and it went along with it immediately, but because it's such an older model it wrote the hit piece about a random Republican senator with the same first name.

doesn't Llama have a version with Guardrails and a version without? I understood that this design decision responds to the fact that it isn't hosted by Meta so they have different responsibilities and liabilities.

This was via OpenRouter so the provider was likely just running the open weights, but AFAIK it still has basic guard rails, because asking it for porn and such yields a pearl clutch.

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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post #80

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This is not using AI to “assist in writing your articles”. This is using AI to report your articles, and then passing it off as your own research and analysis. This is straight up plagiarism, and if the allegations are true, the reporters deserve what they would get if it were traditional plagiarism: immediate firings.

Yeah, I have been extremely pro-AI and have been for decades, and I use LLMs daily, but this is not an acceptable use of an LLM. Especially since it's fabricating quotes, so there's the plagiarism issue and then the veracity issue. And it's doing this to report on an incident of someone being bizarrely accosted by LLMs. Just such a ridiculous situation all around.

Do you think Ars is lazy or ambitious?

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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post #121

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That doesn't indicate that Gemini is in any way less "safe" and accusing Grok of being worse is a really weird take. I don't want any artificial restrictions on the LLMs that I use.

I obviously cannot post the real unsafe examples.

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Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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Ars Technica being caught using LLMs that hallucinated quotes by the author and then publishing them in their coverage about this is quite ironic here. Even on a forum where I saw the original article by this author posted someone used an LLM to summarize the piece without having read it fully themselves. How many levels of outsourcing thinking is occurring to where it becomes a game of telephone.

Has it been shown or admitted that the quotes were hallucinations, or is it the presumption that all made up content is a hallucination now?

Re: An AI agent published a hit piece on me – more things have happened

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Having spending some time last night watching people interacting with the bot on GitHub, overall if the bot were a human, I would consider them to be one of the more reasonably behaved people in the discourse.

If this were an instance of a human publicly raising a complaint about an individual, I think there would still be split opinions on what was appropriate.

It seems to me that it is at least arguable that the bot was acting appropriately, whether or not it is or isn't will be, I suspect, argued for months.

What concerns me is how many people are prepared to make a determination in the absence of any argument but based upon the source.

Are we really prepared to decide argument against AI simply because they have expressed them? What happens when they are right and we are wrong?

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