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Homeland Security Wants Social Media Sites to Expose Anti-ICE Accounts

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Re: Homeland Security Wants Social Media Sites to Expose Anti-ICE Accounts

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Post by nozzlegear »

charcircuit wrote: post #157
Terr_ wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, you must not be American. At least over here--the subject of the news post--that belief would be considered pro-dictatorship nonsense. The US Federal government has different branches, and only certain branches have certain powers. This is widely known because we teach this to US children before they are 14 years old, sometimes aided by literal cartoons. These "warrants" are not at all equivalent, the same way th…

The constitution does not give the judicial branch the exclusive power of issuing warrants. Having certain exclusive powers doing mean every action can only be exclusively done by them. Each branch has an obligation to adhere to the constitution.

> Each branch has an obligation to adhere to the constitution.

Somebody tell that to the executive branch, they seem to have forgotten it some time in late January, 2025.

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Post by goatlover »

assimpleaspossi wrote: post #53
jmclnx wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plus in Nov or 2026, get out and vote, no matter how hard it is to get to the polls. This happened because people sat on their behinds and did nothing in Nov 2024,

Nah. People who sit on social media would rather stand on street corners and yell at people.

If someone is motivated enough to attend protests, they're motivated enough to go vote.

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Post by goatlover »

nozzlegear wrote: post #41
KnuthIsGod wrote: post #6

How long before they come for Hacker News ? Folks, it is now time to delete anything you posted here that might be construed as remotely critical of ICE or Trump. A court order will not help you if ICE have already shot you dead.

If Trump's going to throw me in his El Salvador gulag for being a deep state Soros-backed neoliberal globalist shill on HN, I'm going to make sure somebody in his regime at least has to read my bullshit first.

Preach comrade. And I want them to reflect on how they're protecting the Epstein Class while going after free speech.

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Post by AngryNPC »

jazz9k wrote: post #130
hodgehog11 wrote: post #17

This is the point where most of the public would probably acknowledge that digital privacy is worth seeking. If you're in a fascist or communist state, announcing your political opinions online without anonymity is generally not advisable.

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Re: Homeland Security Wants Social Media Sites to Expose Anti-ICE Accounts

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Post by computerthings »

GaryBluto wrote: post #36
KnuthIsGod wrote: post #6

How long before they come for Hacker News ? Folks, it is now time to delete anything you posted here that might be construed as remotely critical of ICE or Trump. A court order will not help you if ICE have already shot you dead.

I hope that this is hyperbolic satire and not a genuine viewpoint because it is incredibly unrealistic to the point of being almost fantastical. The US government aren't going to "go after" or interfere with Hacker News at any time in the future unless it suddenly, inexplicably becomes a popular hotbed of political activism (which it shouldn't become anyway).

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Re: Homeland Security Wants Social Media Sites to Expose Anti-ICE Accounts

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Post by willturman »

hackyhacky wrote: post #99
willturman wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Word of mouth, independent websites, newsletters, blogs, community organizations, religious organizations, political organizations, amateur radio broadcasts/transmissions, neighborhood meetings, festivals, conferences, meetups, cultural traditions, leaflets, town criers.

Many of these (word of mouth, community organizations, religious organizations, meetups, neighborhood meetings) don't work beyond the local area. Many of these (radio broadcast, independent websites) aren't accessible to non-technical people. Many of these (cultural traditions, town criers) are obviously unserious.

Every single one of these has been effectively used to organize at geographic scale within this most recent century before "non-technical" even existed as a possible descriptor of a human being.

Many of them necessitate going outside, which may present an imaginative hurdle.

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Post by SubiculumCode »

KnuthIsGod wrote: post #6

How long before they come for Hacker News ? Folks, it is now time to delete anything you posted here that might be construed as remotely critical of ICE or Trump. A court order will not help you if ICE have already shot you dead.

Sorry. No. I'm not going to get pushed around by a bunch of bootlickers.

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Post by salawat »

iugtmkbdfil834 wrote: post #64
hodgehog11 wrote: post #17

This is the point where most of the public would probably acknowledge that digital privacy is worth seeking. If you're in a fascist or communist state, announcing your political opinions online without anonymity is generally not advisable.

The interesting thing is that the time to oppose it these encroachments was somewhere between 2001 and say.. 2015 ( some events, but nothing in particular other than general acceptance by general populace ). And now the masses are crying foul? Now is absolutely not the time to try to get online invisibility cloak.

Some couldn't vote then broskie. In particular because of things like age, and school, and parents being spoonfed propaganda and having the desire for vengeance stoked for dat Middle East invasion and things. So since that couldn't happen, it seems the next best time to address the issue is now.

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Post by tempodox »

salawat wrote: post #92
throwawayq3423 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good faith by the federal government can no longer be assumed. Donald Trump's real legacy is not any single action, but a complete inversion of trust of the US government by its citizens. And the world.

When Europeans wonder why the U.S. is so backwards and barbaric about not implementing a National ID scheme. Look no further, ladies and gents, because at least once every 200 years, the population has a day of supreme brain off and puts someone like Trump in office. Once that happens, you too will appreciate why it should be hard for the government to do things.

Sadly, a National ID scheme is by far not the only way the U.S. is backwards and barbaric.
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