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Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Post by schiem »

xp84 wrote: post #125
Paracompact wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people have absolutist takes on these sorts of things. If the stated purpose makes sense ("stop illegal immigration"), they will dismiss tragedies as routine accidents of an imperfect world. If they have no sense of when exceptions become intolerable and course-correction becomes necessary, then by definition, no amount of evidence will change their mind.

What if we believe that those shootings are completely unacceptable (probably criminal), but that “have no immigration enforcement and permanently halt deportations” is also unacceptable? The latter seems to be the solution being pushed by one party. Like always, the left’s problem is that their proposed solutions read like they were written by teenagers, based on emotions and dismissive of the reasons why their supp…

The irony of this comment is that deportations were higher under Biden than during Trump's first term, which makes it seem exactly like it was "written by teenagers, based on emotions." The administration with the highest deportation rate in the past 60 years was the 2nd Clinton administration.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Post by sham1 »

uwagar wrote: post #52

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But why though? Why shouldn't they be restricted to only using the tools they're legally entitled to? And why shouldn't they be held in account when they act like the SA just because they're "enforcing immigration law"?

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Post by frumplestlatz »

jamboca wrote: post #106
frumplestlatz wrote: post #92

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i want to comment something violently hateful towards you. but at this point I feel bad for people like you. indeed you are already living out some twisted arc of the karmic cycle which results in your life and making this comment. i hope you find help eventually and i wish peace for you.

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Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Post by [deleted] »

testfrequency wrote: post #59
doctoboggan wrote: post #5

Hopefully this is a wakeup call to the software engineers and other employees at those companies - it's no longer a hypothetical future where the tools you are building might be abused, it's today.

If you’re not awake already, you support what’s happening. Blind, which I realize is a bit of the wild west, is full of racist anti-immigration/pro ICE hatred. Obviously, you can see where users work/worked, and it’s every company you could imagine. The sad reality is that a lot of people will do what they can to support racist agendas, possibly even motivate them to work at certain companies as it feels moralizing t…

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Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Post by sham1 »

xp84 wrote: post #125
Paracompact wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people have absolutist takes on these sorts of things. If the stated purpose makes sense ("stop illegal immigration"), they will dismiss tragedies as routine accidents of an imperfect world. If they have no sense of when exceptions become intolerable and course-correction becomes necessary, then by definition, no amount of evidence will change their mind.

What if we believe that those shootings are completely unacceptable (probably criminal), but that “have no immigration enforcement and permanently halt deportations” is also unacceptable? The latter seems to be the solution being pushed by one party. Like always, the left’s problem is that their proposed solutions read like they were written by teenagers, based on emotions and dismissive of the reasons why their supp…

I'll be honest, I don't think I've ever actually heard someone give a reason why the US having open borders would be a bad thing. You are a country of immigrants, and your greatness was built upon that foundation.

Yet now it's getting undone for seemingly no reason. But I hope that there would actually be one, so please enlighten me and the other commenters.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Post by jacquesm »

maldev wrote: post #165
jacquesm wrote: post #155

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You seem to be a bit scared of doing this all under your own name, comrade. But don't worry, we know exactly who you are.

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> Not only that, but your profile clearly says you aren't even American. Maybe you should focus on your own politics, or things you understand, and not try to threaten people.

I'm not threatening anybody, I'm just pointing out that in the aggregate anonymity does not exist as told by TFA whereas the GP seems to believe it holds some weight. The only reason you are able to write your comment is simply because I'm not hiding.

You on the other hand are.

> I personally, am glad we have this, so I don't experience what I do when I go to Europe, and get a bunch of illegal Africans terrorizing people in front of police. Or let alone the no go zones.

Funny, that hasn't happened to me yet. What also hasn't happened to me yet is that I got shot in the face at a protest.

But: you are part of the problem, you believe you are part of the solution. The fact that you believe that you are part of the solution but you're not proud enough of it to do so under your own name tells the whole story. It's the equivalent of the mask of those ICE goons.

https://jacquesmattheij.com/if-you-have-nothing-to-hide/

https://jacquesmattheij.com/trackers/

> I'm glad, to have spend most of my career in the government to stop these people coming in and terrorists. Which is why I can report, the US has a very low terror rate, especially when you look at foreign extremists, unlike other parts of the world.

That has something to do with two oceans and nothing at all with your efforts.

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Post by jacquesm »

ryan_lane wrote: post #49
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #16

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That implies a crime was committed. I think you’ll find people on HN fairly unsupportive of population wide surveillance. Getting a warrant from a judge is far better than ICE doing what they’re currently doing.

> I think you’ll find people on HN fairly unsupportive of population wide surveillance Lately I'm not sure that's the case.

Exactly, more than enough bootlickers on here. Or actual boot wearers, as I just found out.

see:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46897536

Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Post by maldev »

jacquesm wrote: post #167
maldev wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Not only that, but your profile clearly says you aren't even American. Maybe you should focus on your own politics, or things you understand, and not try to threaten people. I'm not threatening anybody, I'm just pointing out that in the aggregate anonymity does not exist as told by TFA whereas the GP seems to believe it holds some weight. The only reason you are able to write your comment is simply because I'm not…

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Re: ICE seeks industry input on ad tech location data for investigative use

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Post by jacquesm »

maldev wrote: post #169
jacquesm wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not only that, but your profile clearly says you aren't even American. Maybe you should focus on your own politics, or things you understand, and not try to threaten people. I'm not threatening anybody, I'm just pointing out that in the aggregate anonymity does not exist as told by TFA whereas the GP seems to believe it holds some weight. The only reason you are able to write your comment is simply because I'm not…

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> I proudly stop terrorists, I proudly help law enforcement, and I proudly serve my country to make it the best in the world.

And you're proudly delusional.

But that's fine, stick your head in the sand and continue, you are so invested in this that the thought that you might be on the wrong side seems to scare you into flinging abuse and digging in deeper.

The USA is not 'the best in the world', not by a long shot. Witness the turd sitting in the half demolished White House that you serve.

> Anyways, I will be submitting a tip personally

Haha, so you are now threatening to take revenge on someone you've never met because they're calling you out for exactly that sort of thing. I don't think I could have asked for harder proof.

WTF dude, have you entirely lost it?

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