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Notepad++ supply chain attack breakdown

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Re: Notepad++ supply chain attack breakdown

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The WinGUp updater compromise is a textbook example of why update mechanisms are such high-value targets. Attackers get code execution on machines that specifically trust the update channel. What's concerning is the 6-month window. Supply chain attacks are difficult to detect because the malicious code runs with full user permissions from a "trusted" source. Most endpoint protection isn't designed to flag software fr…

The lack of a well-known, well-designed package manager for Windows has always been a problem. Too many programs, including FOSS programs, are downloaded from suspicious-looking websites with tons of ads, and every app updates itself in a different way. The crappy installation and update channels are often tightly integrated with the vendors' monetization strategies, so there's a huge amount of inertia. Microsoft Sto…

Honest question. Are you telling me this has never happened to Linux? I seem to recall a situation where the source code was compromised. But maybe I am wrong.

Re: Notepad++ supply chain attack breakdown

#162
post #134

Notepad++ is one of my favourite editors, now it is forbidden by IT and checked for on security compliance checks if still installed, thanks to this attack.

> Notepad++ is one of my favourite editors Same, but there are 2 basic key features - tabs, and spell check. There are other nice-to-haves but these are the big ones. Notepad has those features too now. Notepad also has a *#&!$ CoPilot button, but at least you can still turn that off the in the settings.

You are missing what are actually relevant for me, syntax highlighting, tab completion, projects, and plugins.

Notepad has nothing of that.

Re: Notepad++ supply chain attack breakdown

#163
post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Notepad++ is one of my favourite editors Same, but there are 2 basic key features - tabs, and spell check. There are other nice-to-haves but these are the big ones. Notepad has those features too now. Notepad also has a *#&!$ CoPilot button, but at least you can still turn that off the in the settings.

You are missing what are actually relevant for me, syntax highlighting, tab completion, projects, and plugins. Notepad has nothing of that.

True, I should have said "2 basic key features for me" etc.

YMMV.

Re: Notepad++ supply chain attack breakdown

#164
post #86

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The lack of a well-known, well-designed package manager for Windows has always been a problem. Too many programs, including FOSS programs, are downloaded from suspicious-looking websites with tons of ads, and every app updates itself in a different way. The crappy installation and update channels are often tightly integrated with the vendors' monetization strategies, so there's a huge amount of inertia. Microsoft Sto…

> Microsoft Store could have changed this situation Don't you need to create a Microsoft account to use it? That makes sense for a store where you buy apps with money, but not for a package manager for free software like Notepad++. P.S. I'm waiting for the day you need a registered Ubuntu account to use their snap store :(

Many of the software that people install on Windows are quite expensive. So if any package manager were worth calling a "store", one for Windows definitely would be.

It doesn't make sense to have one package manager for paid software and another for free software, so both types of software would be available in the same "store", with the unfortunate consequence that you need to log in with a Microsoft account in order to get free software.

But if I only used free software, I wouldn't even be using Windows.

Re: Notepad++ supply chain attack breakdown

#165
post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The lack of a well-known, well-designed package manager for Windows has always been a problem. Too many programs, including FOSS programs, are downloaded from suspicious-looking websites with tons of ads, and every app updates itself in a different way. The crappy installation and update channels are often tightly integrated with the vendors' monetization strategies, so there's a huge amount of inertia. Microsoft Sto…

> Microsoft Store could have changed this situation Don't you need to create a Microsoft account to use it? That makes sense for a store where you buy apps with money, but not for a package manager for free software like Notepad++. P.S. I'm waiting for the day you need a registered Ubuntu account to use their snap store :(

The non-developer / non-power-user is likely already using their Microsoft account to log into the OS.

Re: Notepad++ supply chain attack breakdown

#166
post #135

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False . Even escalated sustem32 is blocked by protected folders. The write silently fails and logs to MS Defender

Well, try again. I just managed to copy a random .exe to C:\Windows\System32 using an administrator account. I got a typical UAC dialog that most people would blindly click "Continue" on, and the copy succeeded. :)

That’s via explorer not an installer

Re: Notepad++ supply chain attack breakdown

#167
post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Notepad++ is one of my favourite editors Same, but there are 2 basic key features - tabs, and spell check. There are other nice-to-haves but these are the big ones. Notepad has those features too now. Notepad also has a *#&!$ CoPilot button, but at least you can still turn that off the in the settings.

You are missing what are actually relevant for me, syntax highlighting, tab completion, projects, and plugins. Notepad has nothing of that.

Just install VS Code

Re: Notepad++ supply chain attack breakdown

#168
post #162

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You are missing what are actually relevant for me, syntax highlighting, tab completion, projects, and plugins. Notepad has nothing of that.

Just install VS Code

Yeah, the only Electron crap that I tolerate.

Re: Notepad++ supply chain attack breakdown

#169
post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Notepad++ is one of my favourite editors Same, but there are 2 basic key features - tabs, and spell check. There are other nice-to-haves but these are the big ones. Notepad has those features too now. Notepad also has a *#&!$ CoPilot button, but at least you can still turn that off the in the settings.

You are missing what are actually relevant for me, syntax highlighting, tab completion, projects, and plugins. Notepad has nothing of that.

Don't forget regex!

Re: Notepad++ supply chain attack breakdown

#170
post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

False . Even escalated sustem32 is blocked by protected folders. The write silently fails and logs to MS Defender

Well, try again. I just managed to copy a random .exe to C:\Windows\System32 using an administrator account. I got a typical UAC dialog that most people would blindly click "Continue" on, and the copy succeeded. :)

And you likely have protected folders and certainly s mode disabled
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