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Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by tveita »

azaras wrote: post #4
phito wrote: post #3

Well yeah, it is just better. At my work we have a copilot license, but we use it to access Claude Sonnet/Opus model in OpenCode.

The Copilot-Cli is not so bad, https://github.com/features/copilot/cli

The Copilot IntelliJ integration on the other hand is atrocious: https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/17718-github-copilot--y...

I'm amazed that a company that's supposedly one of the big AI stocks seemingly won't spare a single QA position for a major development tool. It really validates Claude's CLI-first approach.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by spwa4 »

nrawe wrote: post #8
onion2k wrote: post #6

Microsoft have a goal that states they want to get to " 1 engineer, 1 month, 1 million lines of code. " You can't do that if you write the code yourself. That means they'll always be chasing the best model. Right now, that's Opus 4.5.

I've not heard that goal before. If true, it makes me sad to hear that once again, people confuse "More LOC == More Customer Value == More Profit". Sigh.

I've written a C recompiler in an attempt to build homomorphic encryption. It doesn't work (it's not correct) but it can translate 5 lines of working code in 100.000 lines of almost-working code.

Any MBAs want to buy? For the right price I could even fix it ...

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by davey48016 »

Zardoz84 wrote: post #39
skandinaff wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eliminate C/C++ in favor of what? Perhaps the plan is to use AI to write plain assembler? Why stop there, maybe let's do prompt in - machine-code out?

If remember correctly, Rust.

Yeah. It's using AI agents to rewrite C/C++ to Rust. https://x.com/gounares/status/2003543050698809544

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by qaq »

paxys wrote: post #111

For one reason or another everyone seems to be sleeping on Gemini. I have been exclusively using Gemini 3 Flash to code these days and it stands up right alongside Opus and others while having a much smaller, faster and cheaper footprint. Combine it with Antigravity and you're basically using a cheat code.

Maybe it's the types of projects I work on but Gemini is basically unusable to me. Settled on Claude Code for actual work and Codex for checking Claude's work. If I try to mix in Gemini it will hallucinate issues that do not exist in code at very high rate. Claude and Codex are way more accurate at finding issues that actually exist.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by softwaredoug »

It really says something that MS/Github has been trying to shovel Copilot down our throats for years, and Anthropic just builds a tool in a short period of time and it takes off.

It's interesting to think back, what did Copilot do wrong? Why didn't it become Claude Code?

It seems for one thing its ambition might have been too small. Second, it was tightly coupled to VS Code / Github. Third, a lot of dumb big org Microsoft politics / stakeholders overly focused on enterprise over developers? But what else?

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by dktp »

zzbzq wrote: post #73
dataviz1000 wrote: post #10

I installed Claude Code yesterday after the quality of VSCode Copilot Chat continuously is getting worse every release. I can't tell yet if Claude Code is better or not but VSCode Copilot Chat has become completely unusable. It would start making mistakes which would double the requests to Claude Opus 4.5 which in January is the only model that would work at all. I spent $400 in tokens in January. I'll know better in…

Not my experience at all. Copilot launched as a useless code complete, is now basically the same as anything. It's all converging. The features are converging, but the features barely matter anyway when Opus is just doing all the heavy lifting anyway. It just 1-shots half the stuff. Copilot's payment model where you pay by the prompt not by the token is highly abusable, no way this lasts.

I would agree. I've been using VSCode Copilot for the past (nearly) year. And it has gotten significantly better. I also use CC and Antigravity privately - and got access to Cursor (on top of VSCode) at work a month ago

CC is, imo, the best. The rest are largely on pair with each other. The benefit of VSCode and Antigravity is that they have the most generous limits. I ran through Cursor $20 limits in 3 days, where same tier VSCode subscription can last me 2+ weeks

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by falsemyrmidon »

timr wrote: post #158
mgkimsal wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No, there is Github Copilot, the AI agent tool that also has autocomplete, and a chat UI. When it came out, Github Copilot was an autocomplete tool. That's it. That may be what the OP was originally using. That's what I used... 2 years ago. That they change the capabilities but don't change the name, yet change names on services that don't change capabilities further illustrates the OP's point, I would say.

That's silly. Gmail is a wildly different product than it was when it launched, but I guess it doesn't count since the name is the same? Microsoft may or may not have a "problem" with naming, but if you're going to criticize a product, it's always a good starting place to know what you're criticizing.

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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by EMM_386 »

What are we discussing here?

The tools or the models? It's getting absurdly confusing.

"Claude Code" is an interface to Claude, Cursor is an IDE (I think?! VS Code fork?), GitHub Copilot is a CLI or VS Code plugin to use with ... Claude, or GPT models, or ...

If they are using "Claude Code" that means they are using Anthropic's models - which is interesting given their huge investment in OpenAI.

But this is getting silly. People think "CoPilot" is "Microsoft's AI" which it isn't. They have OpenAI on Azure. Does Microsoft even have a fine-tuned GPT model or are they just prompting an OpenAI model for their Windows-builtins?

When you say you use CoPilot with Claude Opus people get confused. But this is what I do everyday at work.

shrug

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