Live data from Hacker News

Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

ztechtalk.com

161–170 of 312 posts

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

#163
Most middle managers will either not require this, or require it but find ways to themselves avoid being tagged as logging into their home wifi. The prevailing culture around middle-management is one of inefficiency and rule avoidance. Middle managers need to be replaced by AI already.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

#164
post #149
post #11

Here's the actual "roadmap" feature (scroll to the bottom where the filtered list is): https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/roadmap?search... The actual feature brief is: "When users connect to their organization's Wi-Fi, Teams will soon be able to automatically update their work location to reflect the building they're working from. This feature will be off by default. Tenant admins will decide whether to e…

Working on the systems/security/infrastructure side, we can already do this. Endpoint management systems already report wifi-ssid, internal-IP, whether you are using a vpn to try and hide info. SASE/ZTNA solutions provide location data, username, device used, connection details. Conditional access policies in the tenant already do checks against all of this anyway. The roadmap just makes the whole thing user-facing s…

Working on the systems/security/infrastructure side, we can already do this

IT having the information for security is one thing.

In the hands of power-hungry lower middle managers, it becomes a weapon.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

#165
post #136
post #99

I truly believe our industry needs to elevate our own anti-awards, like others have (Razzies, Worst Game of the Year, etc.) to shame those responsible for building the regressive tech that corporations and governments push. There's already the Big Brother Awards [0] and EFF's smattering of Worst Government and Worst Data Breach articles each year. [1] But I think we need more. Personally I would love to nominate: - M…

>- Latanya Sweeney and Alexandre de Montjoye for their contributions to re-identification of anonymized data It seems like highlighting how anonymization is a lot harder than a lot of people assume is a really useful service. If researchers can do it, without any particular secret sauce, so can a lot of other people. (Unless I'm totally misunderstanding your comment.)

Agreed. I truly don't understand including these researchers on this list.

Some of Sweeney's most well-known work in this area is from the LATE 1990s. She was sounding the alarm about problems with anonymized data in medical datasets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latanya_Sweeney#Medical_datase...

Her work almost certainly contributed highly to awareness of these risks.

More recently she has apparently worked on things like protecting voting rights in the US by notifying voters if their registration records change.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

#166
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The implementation details are sketchy/weak in all sources I can find, but I don't think it's pure (coordinates based) location tracking, but rather a "feature" that will show which WiFi network you're connected to as your Teams status. It's pitched as "what building you're in at the office," which seems like a stretch. It's also kind of unclear whether the blog post is correct that it would show the name of another…

Why not get a portable hotspot and call it "[your work's wifi name]"

Would that not cause problems when your laptop tried to connect to two networks that needed different credentials?

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

#167
post #129

It looks like MS Teams will never be getting installed on my phone. I don’t even allow location sharing with my own family on and ongoing basis.

I installed it on my iPhone but didn't allow Bluetooth access or location access. I imagine it can't really do much with how iOS is. I also don't take my work phone with me if I go outside, so Wi-Fi tracking would be fairly useless anyway.

Guess it's true unless you have a company issued phone that is managed. But then maybe it's less shocking as long as you are allowed to totally turn it off outside work hours.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

#168

Assuming your office has entry gated with a badge (which I assume most do in 2026), don't they already know when you're physically at the office? Heck, my employer's entry system was already coupled to my phone's location (optional, but meant I didn't have to reserve a desk manually). So, I already looked like I was coming to the office on weekends because the grocery store is next door. EDIT: not to mention Teams al…

And cameras inside the office

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

#169
post #99

I truly believe our industry needs to elevate our own anti-awards, like others have (Razzies, Worst Game of the Year, etc.) to shame those responsible for building the regressive tech that corporations and governments push. There's already the Big Brother Awards [0] and EFF's smattering of Worst Government and Worst Data Breach articles each year. [1] But I think we need more. Personally I would love to nominate: - M…

Calling out anonymity researchers for showing that "anonymization" schemes don't work well is a stupid and dumb idea.

If they hadn't done it, you can bet that bad guys would have done it instead (and maybe were already doing it). What the researchers did is publicly show that the existing schemes were broken, hence motivating the design of better schemes.

Like, you fundamentally misunderstand computer security research if you think that shitting on people publishing attacks is a good thing.

Re: Microsoft 365 now tracks you in real time?

#170

Some of my neighbors have some rather colorful Wifi SSIDs. I've seen some silly ones like "FBI SURVEILLANCE" as well as at least one crudely expressing their opinion of the current US President. Probably won't be long now before we see someone get fired because their boss saw the name of their home Wifi network.

[deleted]
Post reply on HN