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The tech market is fundamentally fucked up and AI is just a scapegoat

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Re: The tech market is fundamentally fucked up and AI is just a scapegoat

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Proven businesses can always borrow at fairly low rates. When capital gets really cheap it starts to incentivize greater amounts of risk taking because investors actually want risk. If you are starting a dry cleaning business, you have a cost of the equipment, rent and other well known factors. Starting a tech company in a new and unproven area has different expenses and a different risk/reward profile. Malinvestment…

Cheap venture capital is uniquely driven by the interest rate more than any other factor. Low interest rates drive money away from safer vehicles towards more risky vehicles because they still offer a return. This is good far people starting companies, but in the long run the decision makers on those investments almost always turn out to have mis-priced the risk factor and end up with negative returns. This then caus…

Excellent points. You've perfectly described the brutal, interest-rate-driven VC cycle -- capital floods in, risk gets mispriced, and the market eventually corrects with Darwinian force. That's the "blunt instrument" in action.

Meanwhile in China, the approach is fundamentally different. Capital isn't just cheap; it's strategically directed by the state with goals beyond financial return. The aim is "new quality productive forces" -- slow-burn, systemic growth that reinforces social stability and industrial upgrade, not a boom-bust race for unicorns.

The current AI boom is our real-time experiment to see if this is the "better way." The U.S. model, as you note, is driven by massive private investment (over $109B in 2024) and is prone to hype cycles. China's model is state-planned, focusing on the "AI Plus" integration of technology across its industrial base, despite investing less ($9.3B) and facing constraints like advanced semiconductor access.

We're watching two competing logics: one seeking market-defining breakthroughs through volatile, capital-intensive competition, and another pursuing broad-based, stability-oriented technological integration. The results of this test will show which system better transforms capital into lasting, system-wide advantage.

Re: The tech market is fundamentally fucked up and AI is just a scapegoat

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How exactly are good doctors easy to identify and hard to fire? And how does it follow that AI is a net negative when wielded by professionals who are excellent at what they do? If people can't identify qualified professionals without relying on credentials, they probably aren't qualified to be hiring managers.

There are a couple of things that identify talent in the qualified space: * Peer reviews in the industry * Publications in peer reviewed journals * Owner/partner of a firm of licensed professionals * Quantity of surgeries, clients, products, and so forth * Transparency around lawsuits, license violations, ethics violations, and so forth * Multiple licenses. Not one, but multiple stacked on top of a base qualification…

They are not taken into account simply because they may be meaningless to job advertised.

For example no company I ever worked for (maybe 7 over 20 years) needed publishing academics. Is the fact that you published a book about some DB architecture 10 years ago going to make you a better team member and deliver things faster? Maybe, or maybe not, how could hiring folks know? You measure and judge what you can, ignore the rest since it can be + or - and you have no clue, not even about probability spread.

Doctors with many licenses may be better, or maybe they like studying more than actually working with patients and thus be possibly even worse than average, how do you want to measure that? A stellar doctor may simply have no time to do anything beyond her/his current work due to also dedicating time to their family and raising children. Quality of a doctor, especially surgeons is mostly function of work already performed (knowing closely tens of doctors from all branches they themselves often claim this), not some extra papers. And so on and on.

Re: The tech market is fundamentally fucked up and AI is just a scapegoat

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post #106

Personally I think all these posts miss 50% of the issue... I agree it's not AI, but I suspect it's only partially an interest rate story. Tech changed a lot from 2010 to 2020. Prior to 2010 almost everything built required a huge amount of development effort, and in 2010 there was still a huge amount of useful stuff to be built. Remember – prior to 2010 a lot of major companies didn't even have basic e-commerce stor…

I mostly agree with your assessment of the industry. However, I think there are still more new and useful products to be built. They are not “the next big thing” though. Big tech Management has been screwing this up in a couple of ways though.

1. prioritizing bets for things that could be as profitable as social media or e-commerce instead of betting on more incremental improvement products.

2. Focusing on pricing everything with reoccurring revenue and thus increasing the lifetime cost for end users instead of selling products at a discrete costs and providing end users value

3. Optimizing for growth and controlling the vision of products instead of letting small groups of talented people slowly build products.

4. Treating people as fungible resources and moving them around all the time rather than letting people develop unique expertise skillsets.

As a result, any product that can’t achieve $10+ billion annual revenue within a couple of years with a ship of Theseus team is deemed a failure and scrapped.

Re: The tech market is fundamentally fucked up and AI is just a scapegoat

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post #24

Anecdotally, I didn't see more safety for engineers working on cash cows. Quite the contrary, if a product is already bringing revenue, it is an easy decision for the business to squeeze a bit more margin by letting people go. Stable, cash-generating projects are often first to be put into efficiency/maintenance mode.

It may be not such a bad idea because many engineers have an itch for fixing things that aren't broken.

It is rather that many software developers see how bad the code is, and thus attempt to reduce the code debt if possible. I have rarely seen software developers fixing things that aren't broken (though it is often not easy for managers and people who are not deeply knowledgeable about the project to see why what is there is broken).

On the other hand, I have seen politically very adapt software developers who actually rather want to managers to advertise some technology that they would love to introduce in the projects.

Re: The tech market is fundamentally fucked up and AI is just a scapegoat

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IMO the issue is even more fundamental than the article presents. The software product market is approaching a saturation point. All the low hanging fruit has been commoditized, so buying something off the shelf is now generally preferable to having engineers on your staff. After the pandemic hiring spree, even the big tech companies realized they didn't have enough productive work for all these engineers. The effect is compounded by the return to normal interest rates, so investors are no longer desperate to dump their cash into every random startup idea. Ultimately, software engineers aren't going away, but the era of desperate need is over for good.

Re: The tech market is fundamentally fucked up and AI is just a scapegoat

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post #47

Interesting framing. The article makes a compelling case that we're seeing the hangover from 14 years of ZIRP-fueled hiring rather than an AI apocalypse. But I'm curious what people think the equilibrium looks like. If the "two-tier system" (core revenue teams + disposable experimental teams) becomes the norm, what does that mean for the future of SWE as a career? A few scenarios I keep turning over: 1. Bifurcation -…

"Consulting/contractor becomes default - Full-time employment becomes rare; most devs work project-to-project like other creative industries" I'm in the tech industry and have been doing this for 12+ years now. In the beginning, it was because I wanted to live overseas for a few years, without a break in my career. Now, it's about survival. I buy my own health insurance (me and my family) in the marketplace every yea…

How did you get into this? How would you recommend transitioning from FTE to this life?

Re: The tech market is fundamentally fucked up and AI is just a scapegoat

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a couple of things that identify talent in the qualified space: * Peer reviews in the industry * Publications in peer reviewed journals * Owner/partner of a firm of licensed professionals * Quantity of surgeries, clients, products, and so forth * Transparency around lawsuits, license violations, ethics violations, and so forth * Multiple licenses. Not one, but multiple stacked on top of a base qualification…

They are not taken into account simply because they may be meaningless to job advertised. For example no company I ever worked for (maybe 7 over 20 years) needed publishing academics. Is the fact that you published a book about some DB architecture 10 years ago going to make you a better team member and deliver things faster? Maybe, or maybe not, how could hiring folks know? You measure and judge what you can, ignore…

Yes, most employers in tech are not looking for published academics. That’s a bit of an oversimplification.

The actual problem is that developers are made into a commodity because they are an unvalued cost center. Developers do not make money. They only take money. So, the goal is to not train them and replace them as conveniently as possible.

The result is to not look for talent but instead equate the requirements to a lowest common denominator. That minimizes personnel management friction at cost to everything else. We all know this. The real concern for developers is why that is allowed to occur in software but not other professions.

Re: The tech market is fundamentally fucked up and AI is just a scapegoat

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Mind you that the IT over investment sucked money out of other industries. My friends who chose different career paths do not seem to be particularly content either.

It's insane how many billions went into idiotic "tech" companies like wework when it could've been invested somewhere with an actual outcome or benefit for society.

Let's not even bring the gig economy into discussion..

Re: The tech market is fundamentally fucked up and AI is just a scapegoat

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If you make a prediction that the stock market is about to collapse every year, then one year you will eventually get it right.

The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. But why do you think gold has tripled in price?

1. Mass hysteria.

2. Central banks rotating into gold to de-risk from USD combined with their usual slow bureaucratic processes. By the time they've decided that gold needs to be bought, the price has already run up by 50% and it's no longer a good idea to buy, but they still need to execute on their decisions anyway.

The USD isn't going anywhere for the simple reason that the USA can simply counterfeit any non-USD currency and there's nothing the issuer can do about it, whereas if anyone tries to counterfeit USD, they should expect a nice little missile to land inside their room no matter where they are in the world. "Reserve currency" status is entirely based on how effective the issuing entity is at taking care of counterfeiting.

Re: The tech market is fundamentally fucked up and AI is just a scapegoat

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Let's look at reality. In reality, warfare, k-shaped economic growth, and influential social media tantrums from Elon, POTUS, and other big billionaires are the más problemas stifling our job market. Go ahead and sit AI in last place as 'reasons' why the tech market isn't improving, but do not call it a scapegoat. We have many distinct problems here. A lot of them are not financial. It's a dumpster fire getting free heat, free fuel, and the oxygen supply has never been more pure. AI is simply the dumpster vessel putting it all together.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_triangle

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