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Android’s desktop interface leaks

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Post by IncreasePosts »

joe_mamba wrote: post #113
cogman10 wrote: post #105

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You are also buying a soon to be unmaintained device which will fall out of security support. That $50 PC can run linux with the latest kernel for the next 20 years (maybe longer).

There's lineageOS for outdated pixel device, but I think you loose device attestation if you flash that, so your banking, payment and digital-ID apps won't work anymore which is kind of important features for a lot of people. I still think separating a phone for phone apps and a PC for productivity, is the best choice even if that PC is a 20 year old rustbucket from the dumpster, it will still do more tasks than a ph…

Your banking app might not work but your bank probably also offers a web page that you can just load up in your browser

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Post by kohbo »

SirMaster wrote: post #153
46493168 wrote: post #149

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This form factor was tried before and it didn’t stick. Why should it be brought back now?

I guess I fail to see where people will use this then. Where are there going to be setups where they can plug the 3 things into their phone that aren't already a computer that you can just use as-is?

I'm using this right now on a work trip. Since I don't want to use my work computer for personal stuff, I carry a small bag that has a mouse, small keyboard, USB-C hub, and USB-C to HDMI cable. I set that up while I'm in my hotel room and use my Fold7 as a personal laptop. The items mentioned are all kept neatly in that small bag and it just sits at the bottom of my work bag until I want to use them.

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Post by HNisCIS »

SirMaster wrote: post #147

So would it make sense to sell a folding plastic shell with screen, keyboard and trackpad in it that you can bring in your bag and pull out to plug your phone into it?

I've always wanted a keyboard+screen with a slot for a phone as the trackpad. Saving any money over a regular trackpad? No. Cool as hell? I think so at least...

Re: Android’s desktop interface leaks

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Post by guerrilla »

God this looks like a nightmare. Using Android on a desktop would be a fascist dystopia. Using it on phones is bad enough, computing while wearing a straight-jacket, but now they're going to have complete control of our computers and spy on everything we do on it? I can't imagine a worse outcome for the PC.

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Post by gman83 »

SirMaster wrote: post #147

So would it make sense to sell a folding plastic shell with screen, keyboard and trackpad in it that you can bring in your bag and pull out to plug your phone into it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67Jm8IiwURQ

That's 14 years old. Kind of crazy this concept hasn't developed more in the meantime.

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Post by sunaookami »

sofixa wrote: post #36
direwolf20 wrote: post #7

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This is why Valve invested so much in Linux. They saw the writing on the wall of Microsoft becoming Apple (but shittier). Now they have an alternative. If Microsoft charges a 30% tax on all Steam transactions and won't let Steam run unless they do that, Valve can heavily push Linux and Steam Machine sales.

> Microsoft becoming Apple (but shittier) At least Microsoft haven't fallen so low as to fail basic design principles like having transparent on top of transparent buttons, having disappearing controls depending on window size (scrollbars), or having corners so rounded that the click to drag mostly being outside the actual window. The Windows 11 UI is annoying, but at least it doesn't look like a kid's toy.

Having a mandatory sign-in prompt when opening Notepad and two context menus is way worse than anything Apple did in Tahoe.

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Post by cromka »

joe_mamba wrote: post #110
nutjob2 wrote: post #100

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You don't wired need display output, just WiFi. Motorola's Smart Connect desktop uses Miracast for using TVs and the like as desktop monitors as well as wired. I got my moto g84 5G with 8/256 GB for about 170 euros new and it supports it (not wired). Seems to work fine.

Is it any good? Last time I tried miracast the framerate and video quality was total garbage due to shit compression. Barely worked for streaming youtube videos to the TV but no way I could do it for productivity.

Same here. The only way to make streaming between devices is the way Apple does it, directly, not via Access Point.

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Post by nix0n »

SirMaster wrote: post #147

So would it make sense to sell a folding plastic shell with screen, keyboard and trackpad in it that you can bring in your bag and pull out to plug your phone into it?

This exists, it is called the NexDock[0]. I have never tried it.

[0]https://nexdock.com/explore-nexdock/

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Post by sofixa »

pjmlp wrote: post #59
flohofwoe wrote: post #48

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> At least Microsoft haven't fallen so low as to fail basic design principles like having transparent on top of transparent buttons That's just because Microsoft has been there done that already 2 decades ago ;) (IIRC in Windows Vista). Same with the fine-grained in-your-face permission popups. Introduced by Microsoft in Vista, copied by Apple in Mojave ;)

One more reason for Apple to actually have delivered it properly, given that they had Microsoft's failures to learn from.

Not really, Apple permission prompts aren't different enough. It's just a random prompt to put in your password, with limited information why.

The Windows ones look very different, dim the rest of the screen, and have more info.

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