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Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by mlrtime »

zoeysmithe wrote: post #83
positron26 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone who hates driving, being stuck in traffic, anyone who benefits when the cost of transportation is cheaper, anyone who hates insurance, all of society benefits. In some parallel universe self driving and fusion are both crash projects receiving well administered social scale funding. Lots of things are. It is somewhat miraculous that we don't all live in this conclusion, realizing these huge value creation oppo…

None of that is solved by automated driving. You want public trains, BRT bus systems, trams, etc. The ideal universe is you stepping on public trans, not piloting various rube goldberg-esque machines that are far more dangerous and will always contribute to traffic and "one more lane" does not work.

Cool, in this universe I have a train stop in my front yard?

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by maest »

jyscao wrote: post #82
nomel wrote: post #33

There's a few Lex Fridman podcasts with George Hotz, the founder. Highly recommend them: #31 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwcYp-XT7UI #132 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L3gNaAVjQ4 #387 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNrTrx42DGQ

No idea how Fridman manages to bring on the type of high profile guests that he does. Guy does not ask good questions and has the charisma of a wet rag,

Many people wonder this to the point where "Fridman is a hack and an industry plant" has become a meme.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by whazor »

micw wrote: post #156

Can this be legally used in Europe, especially in Germany (i.e. is is allowed by the German traffic laws "Straßenverkehrsordnung")?

I think as a company you could do: https://single-market-economy.ec.europa.eu/sectors/automotiv...

But you would probably need to sell a car together with Comma integrated. And also test every update as well.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by ninalanyon »

SirMaster wrote: post #136
nashashmi wrote: post #37

> Currently, openpilot performs the functions of Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Automated Lane Centering (ALC). openpilot can accelerate, brake automatically for other vehicles, and steer to follow the road/lane. [1] [Some of the] Cars that are currently supported already have "smart cruise" and "lane follow". Why then use a third-party self-driving system? [1] https://comma.ai/openpilot#:~:text=Currently%2C%20ope…

Big one, because all those cars require you to touch and move the steering wheel every X seconds. All the ones that let you go hands free cost a subscription of around $500 a year (Ford BlueCruise, GM SuperCruise). And even those only let you use hands free mode on pre-mapped roads, typically only interstates. Becasue most cars with lane follow still lose lock on the lane when the lines are hard to see (rains, snow,…

> All the stock lane keep that I have used in cars, if you fail to nudge the wheel they just disengage and you keep going at full speed in a straight line...

is this true for current EVs as well? My 2015 Tesla S brings the car to a controlled stop with hazard warnings on.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by ninalanyon »

knowitnone3 wrote: post #104
digitalPhonix wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mercedes Drive Pilot (“SAE Level 3”) is certified on some very specific stretches of insterstate in California to not require the driver to be responsible. https://www.mbusa.com/en/owners/manuals/drive-pilot Requirements: - Stop and go traffic (or less than 40mph?) - On some specific sections of highway - Driver doesn’t need to monitor but must be ready to take over with 15(?) seconds of the system requesting > Merce…

that's really dumb of Mercedes take on that liability for little benefit - sell more cars, make more profit? My prediction is MB drops this or goes bankrupt in the next 10 years.

It's a marketing gimmick. The conditions under which it can be used are so restrictive that it's really not useful which means it will be rarely used so Mercedes exposure to liability is really quite small.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by ninalanyon »

dingaling wrote: post #147
overfeed wrote: post #61

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In an accident, culpability cannot transfer to a computer ostensibly running under your supervision. As a driver, you likely sign away all claims to blaming CommaAI when you accept the EULA & ToS updates.

I'd be more concerned about insurance being voided due to an undeclared modification to the vehicle. In the UK any third-parties will still be compensated, but the first-party will get nothing and will struggle to get car insurance in the future.

Does Comma.AI require modifications to the vehicle? I thought it just plugged in to the CAN bus or diagnostics port.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by thunfischtoast »

SirMaster wrote: post #140
justapassenger wrote: post #122

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Ironically - bad ones will effectively try to kill you less. That’s the thing about any automations that are just aides. Humans are extremely bad at monitoring machines, and if aide system is good enough that trick you into thinking it’s actually stand alone and in control, you get complacent very fast, stop pay attention as you convince yourself that automation got it. So bad level 2 driver assists are so bad, that…

Everyone that I have heard from who uses one say that it reduces the monotonous mental load and frees up their brain to focus more on being aware of other drivers and what's happening on the road, rather than worrying about their speed and exact steering. People report being more alert and more aware of things about to go wrong.

I've made a similar experience. Not having to focus on my exact speed all the time (using adaptive cruise control) enables me to watch the mirrors more. It also enables me to keep my attention over multiple hours.

On a kinda unrelated note: I lately see more and more people watching streams or Tik Tok while driving. If of course you use your newly acquired freedom for that it will lead to more accidents.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by s3p »

labcomputer wrote: post #128
nodja wrote: post #113

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> My already comes with built in why would I install anything else? Top voted comment on hacker news btw. Ok that was probably unnecessarily snarky I hope you don't take offense, but it seems the hacker spirit has been fading more often from this site, we used to replace stuff with inferior versions just to see if we could.

Speaking of hacker spirit... Comma has a lot of restrictions on what software you can load / what changes you can make to the software.

What? It's literally open source, you can ssh into the thing and change whatever you want. I am running a fork of a fork of the code right now. I change things all the time.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by fatata123 »

mlrtime wrote: post #161
zoeysmithe wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of that is solved by automated driving. You want public trains, BRT bus systems, trams, etc. The ideal universe is you stepping on public trans, not piloting various rube goldberg-esque machines that are far more dangerous and will always contribute to traffic and "one more lane" does not work.

Cool, in this universe I have a train stop in my front yard?

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