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House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate

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Re: House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate

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Post by singleshot_ »

lp0_on_fire wrote: post #138
singleshot_ wrote: post #115

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> INS and Border Patrol is exempt from (some) warrants. Border Patrol handled that raid. Badly. INS does not exist. While an agency may be exempt from (some) warrants, it is an undisputed fact that the raid that resulted in the capture of Elián González included a valid search warrant.

You’re being pedantic. INS was rolled into the homeland security umbrella in the early 2003s. The poster was obviously using an old name.

It's far better to be pedantic than to constantly spout misinformation.

Re: House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate

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Post by xethos »

scarecrowbob wrote: post #119
pjc50 wrote: post #50

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Do protests have parking?

Our local municipality has (in the distant past) made all of the business park on-street parking into "no parking" zones. They also heavily enforce parking regulations in the area during actions...

Wanting to discourage motorists being around where a massive group of people are expected to gather is reasonable. It's why streets will close for parades and parties. You're turning something designed to protect protestors into a conspiracy to scuttle a protest

Re: House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate

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Post by s-y »

iknowstuff wrote: post #103
s-y wrote: post #91

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This is true. But it does not negate the comment you are replying to. Once you introduce kids into the mix (esp infants) - this whole narrative falls apart quite quick, ditto for elders/people with disabilities. Bikes, public transport are not a substitute for the vehicle. I do agree that the vehicle should not be the default transportation even if I do consider myself a "car guy".

No, it does not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSGx3HSjKDo Car centrism TAKES AWAY independence of kids, elderly, and disabled people.

This is not a serious comment. Infants on bikes.

Re: House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

ben_w wrote: post #159
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #154

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Americans harassed my mom for wearing a mask during COVID when she was going through cancer treatment. They would rather she just died than 1. They wear masks 2. Be made to feel bad they didn't care about her dying. The grocery store she shopped at literally had to setup special hours people like my mom could shop without being harassed and pushed to tears. She died knowing most of her community didn't care if she di…

My condolences about your mum; I lost mine during the pandemic, though Alzheimers' causing her to forget to drink water rather than cancer, and the frequent closing of international borders meaning I couldn't even be there for the funeral. That said, you've shifted the goalposts here: the one and only thing I was disagreeing about was the military. The military are the final arbiter of what happens, when the civilian…

I didn't know how to respond. I'll concede the discussion. It's nothing compared to your loss. I am so sorry that you went through that and that your mother passed. Wasn't going to say something, but I need to acknowledge how sad/horrible that is.

Re: House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

unstyledcontent wrote: post #3

Here in Minneapolis, there have been multiple anecdotal reports of ICE being able to remotely unlock cars, disable them, and even open windows. Whether its true, its certainly seems possible. Its made me very concerned about public safety if we allow our government to have this power. I actually believe being able to own and use a vehicle freely should be protected under the 2nd amendment. Im picturing a world where…

>I also think the second amendment should be applied encryption for the same reason. Encryption is essential to the people's ability to mount a defense against tyranny.

The second amendment only protects the right to arms. Firearms certainly, others as well (swords, if anyone gave a shit about them, body armor for sure, perhaps even others not normally considered to fall under its protection like grenades). If the Constitution protects encryption or un-pre-sabotaged vehicles, the 2nd amendment isn't the portion that does so.

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

B1FIDO wrote: post #132
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #97

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The government will soon be able to geofence areas to keep vehicles out of. Wonder if you will get a warning as you get close or if they will just cut out. "Warning, you are approaching a closed zone. Stop your advance. Compliance is mandatory. Mobility privileges for this vehicle will be revoked"

One time, I was in a shopping mall and I had filled my cart at Target. I checked out, and proceeded to the parking lot where I was supposed to meet a Waymo. I had arranged for it to pick me up in the designated "Ride Share/Taxi Pickup Area" which was quite near the Target, but across the "street" and next to the cluster of bus stops. I passed an obvious and ominous sign that indicated the border of the "shopping cart…

There was an app linked here a few months back that unlocks them from your iphone. I haven't had a chance to try it yet.

Re: House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate

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Post by iknowstuff »

s-y wrote: post #163
iknowstuff wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it does not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSGx3HSjKDo Car centrism TAKES AWAY independence of kids, elderly, and disabled people.

This is not a serious comment. Infants on bikes.

Ever hear of a stroller

Re: House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate

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Post by s-y »

iknowstuff wrote: post #167
s-y wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not a serious comment. Infants on bikes.

Ever hear of a stroller

Ever heard of weather? Long distances? Sickness? Hills? A stroller is walking with a handicap.

Arguing for the sake of arguing in this case is really poor on your part.

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