Honestly, would be very cool if someone could make a search engine of only human-produced content. I know it's going to be hard and compute intensive but I don't think it's impossible. In fact, Google could do it. A paid service for only human made content. Obviously there would be a margin of error as we can never be 100% sure if something really is AI written.
Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings and impact on Kagi
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Re: Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings and impact on Kagi
#162Honestly, would be very cool if someone could make a search engine of only human-produced content. I know it's going to be hard and compute intensive but I don't think it's impossible. In fact, Google could do it. A paid service for only human made content. Obviously there would be a margin of error as we can never be 100% sure if something really is AI written.
Re: Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings and impact on Kagi
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is a logistics problem here - even if you had enough money to pay, how would you get in touch with every single site to even let them know you're happy to pay? It's not like site operators routinely scan their error logs to see your failed crawling attempts and your offer in the user-agent. Even if they see it, it's a classic chicken & egg problem: it's not worth the time of the site operator to engage with you…
Realistically you don't need every single site on board before you index becomes valuable. You can get in touch with sites via social media, email, discord, or even visiting them face to face.
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#164I am rooting for Kagi here, and I applaud their transparency on such matters. It is quite enlightening for someone like me who understands technology but knows little about the inner workings of search. It remains to be seen how or if the remedies will be enforced, and, of course, how Google will choose to comply with them. I am not optimistic, but at least there is some hope. As an aside: The 1998 white paper by Bri…
Re: Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings and impact on Kagi
#165Re: Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings and impact on Kagi
#166The statistics in this article sound like garbage to me. Google used by 90% or the world? ~20% of the human population lives in countries where Google is blocked. OTOH, Baidu is the #1 search engine in China, which has over 15% of the world’s population… but doesn’t reach 1%? These stats are made measuring US-based traffic, rather than “worldwide” as they claim.
Google is only blocked in places where it would already be hard for a company with morals to work in, if not outright blocked as well. This probably represents traffic globally, excluding those places. Instead of downvoting blindly, please state which countries are currently blocking Google that would willingly allow Kagi, a AI/Privacy focused search engine company to exist in their domain? The results may surprise y…
they present numbers and say "world" like whole countries and groups of people don't matter. very arrogant.
Re: Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings and impact on Kagi
#167Does anyone else use the phrase "I'm going to google XYZ" while referring to actually searching it up on Kagi, DDG, or another search engine?
With kagi, one cannot miss the opportunity to generate a similar verb " kag-are", which sounds exactly like "going number 2" (in a relatively rude way), which is what I ironically use every time I decide not to use the generic "search" verb. I consider it one of the minor benefits of being a kagi user!
Re: Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings and impact on Kagi
#168Does anyone else use the phrase "I'm going to google XYZ" while referring to actually searching it up on Kagi, DDG, or another search engine?
I've been using Kagi for the past few years, but I try to use a brand-agnostic language talking about web search; e.g. "I'm gonna search [the web] for it"; "Use your favorite search engine to look it up".
Re: Waiting for dawn in search: Search index, Google rulings and impact on Kagi
#169Kagi's "waiting for dawn" is just waiting for Google to legitimize their reseller business Meanwhile, users pay a premium to pretend they're not using Google Fascinating delusion
- filter out results from specific websites that you can choose, - show more results from specific websites that you can choose, - show fewer results from specific websites that you can choose,
and so forth. When you find your results becoming contaminated by some new slop farm, you can just eliminate them from your results. Google could also do that, but their business model seems to rely more on showing slop results with their ads in those third party pages.
Just like mobile phone providers, third parties can provide lots of value add by reselling infrastructure. Business models can be different, feature sets can differ. This is not a delusion but the reality of reselling.
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
Realistically you don't need every single site on board before you index becomes valuable. You can get in touch with sites via social media, email, discord, or even visiting them face to face.
You really do need every single site, as search is a long tail problem. All the interesting stuff is in the fringes, if you only have a few big sites you'll have a search engine of spam.