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California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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Makes for a catchy headline, but you only have to go back to Jan 9, 2024* to find a similarly 'drought free' California: https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/Maps/CompareTwoWeeks.aspx (*Technically slivers of the state in the far north/south were 'abnormally dry' in 2024, a small difference from 2026)

Wait so who is being dishonest, the old article, the new one, or both?

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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It’s important to note that rainfall in CA is not 100% natural. The state actively funds cloud seeding. https://www.grants.ca.gov/grants/gfo-23-311-advancing-precip... Example of a recent $2.5M grant. This information is often buried in budgets under applied research grants. I suspect they obscure this information because it could create liabilities, for example, if gov funded rain seeding creates flooding and human…

From the link alone, it looks like the state actively funds cloud seeding research , not active practical cloud seeding?

Applied research is active cloud seeding

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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It’s important to note that rainfall in CA is not 100% natural. The state actively funds cloud seeding. https://www.grants.ca.gov/grants/gfo-23-311-advancing-precip... Example of a recent $2.5M grant. This information is often buried in budgets under applied research grants. I suspect they obscure this information because it could create liabilities, for example, if gov funded rain seeding creates flooding and human…

This doesn’t seem important to note at all.

It can affect current rainfall numbers, future rainfall, and future projections

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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It’s important to note that rainfall in CA is not 100% natural. The state actively funds cloud seeding. https://www.grants.ca.gov/grants/gfo-23-311-advancing-precip... Example of a recent $2.5M grant. This information is often buried in budgets under applied research grants. I suspect they obscure this information because it could create liabilities, for example, if gov funded rain seeding creates flooding and human…

That's a grant, to research them, which is important. There are programs that are shut down, since they learned from them: https://sawpa.gov/santa-ana-river-watershed-cloud-seeding/

Applied research is active cloud seeding

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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It’s important to note that rainfall in CA is not 100% natural. The state actively funds cloud seeding. https://www.grants.ca.gov/grants/gfo-23-311-advancing-precip... Example of a recent $2.5M grant. This information is often buried in budgets under applied research grants. I suspect they obscure this information because it could create liabilities, for example, if gov funded rain seeding creates flooding and human…

That’s silly. If you know about it, so do the lawyers who would come out of the woodwork to take these cases.

Here’s a research report relating to weather modification. It references even a prior California case where a flood happened in an area utilizing cloud seeding.

https://digitalcommons.pace.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=...

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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> In other arid areas, people use terracing on hills so the water runoff is slowed and the water can soak into the aquifers. Also, dikes are built around fields to hold the water and also let it soak into the ground. > Are these done in California? People terrace where the only arable land is in hills or mountains. The vast majority of California's farmland is flat as a board. California's central valley also has one…

I infer they aren't bulldozing a dike around the flat farmland to prevent runoff and allow the water to soak into the ground. This will also reduce flooding from overloading the rivers with water.

You need some outflow to carry away salts. Otherwise, the water just evaporates and leaves the salt there, and eventually the land becomes unable to grow crops. This has historically been a serious problem in Mesopotamia, for example.

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That was widely ridiculed, but despite how it sometimes seems policy makers are not so stupid to believe saving water from cups not drunk would make a meaningful difference directly. One of the big hurdles for changing human behavior at scale is improving awareness. Even people who want to conserve their water usage benefit from frequent reminders to actually make changes stick. Being reminded the state is in a droug…

Well it didn’t work. I don’t elect my representatives to change human behavior at scale.

So you don’t think the government should have any economic policy? No taxes, education, or social welfare services?

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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Makes for a catchy headline, but you only have to go back to Jan 9, 2024* to find a similarly 'drought free' California: https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/Maps/CompareTwoWeeks.aspx (*Technically slivers of the state in the far north/south were 'abnormally dry' in 2024, a small difference from 2026)

Wait so who is being dishonest, the old article, the new one, or both?

yes!

Re: California is free of drought for the first time in 25 years

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crops are kind of important though

They don’t have to be grown in the desert

Almonds aren’t grown in the desert, they’re grown in the Central Valley. And they’re grown there because before it’s incredibly fertile soil.
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