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Re: STFU

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Post by fsckboy »

barbazoo wrote: post #38
tra3 wrote: post #28

In the style of cheap tiktoks: "There are two types of people...". My wife loves listening to her phone on max volume, but it sounds so bad compared to half decent speakers. Also what's up with the people hiking (by themselves) with a bluetooth speaker. You're by yourself, in nature. If you want to listen to music wear headphones!! Also why are people using speaker phones in public places at max volume. The speaker i…

> Also what's up with the people hiking (by themselves) with a bluetooth speaker. You're by yourself, in nature. If you want to listen to music wear headphones!! Maybe they don't know of or don't have access to bone conducting earphones. Whatever they're listening to, that way they'd also still hear their environment.

>Maybe they don't know of or don't have access to...

Maybe they don't know of or don't have any access to any sense of boundaries, as if they skipped the infant stage of development where they should have learned that "mom" is another person with her own coequal set of needs. And anybody with the urge to push back on this notion, please cover the case where it might apply to you to.

Re: STFU

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Post by zdragnar »

ben_w wrote: post #34
tra3 wrote: post #28

In the style of cheap tiktoks: "There are two types of people...". My wife loves listening to her phone on max volume, but it sounds so bad compared to half decent speakers. Also what's up with the people hiking (by themselves) with a bluetooth speaker. You're by yourself, in nature. If you want to listen to music wear headphones!! Also why are people using speaker phones in public places at max volume. The speaker i…

I get you, I also prefer quiet. But I have a question: > I'm loving the fact that battery technology will eventually eliminate weed wackers. Is this a non-sequitur, or a euphemism/figure of speech/etc. which I have never previously encountered?

I think the following line puts it into more context:

> I find loud noises challenging.

They're basically comparing other people's speaker music to noise pollution. Two stroke engines can be heard from a long way off, and I've got box fans that are louder than my electric weedwhacker.

Re: STFU

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Post by gouggoug »

abalashov wrote: post #148
dekhn wrote: post #88

Here's one I don't know how to solve: at work some folks take meetings in the bathroom. They're on their phone, they walk to a stall, do their... business while doing their business, all the while talking and listening, while toilets flush in the background. I understand cultural differences but taking business meetings in the bathroom seems inappropriate under effectively all circumstances.

I understand the overwhelming opposition to this, and I wouldn't do it myself. However, I lead a life of very few meetings (I'd actually appreciate more--this stance puts me in a very small company, to be sure), so it's easy for me to say that one should be more judicious with one's timing. I can emphathise with someone stuck in meetings all day in a predominantly listening role, that they consider perfunctory or mos…

There’s a difference between passively listening to a meeting and actively participating, while being in the bathroom.

I would never do either. But one is less weird than the other.

Re: STFU

#164

Post by publicdebates »

> app that plays back the same audio it hears, delayed by ~2 seconds.

> idk i'm not a neuroscientist. all i know is it makes people shut up and that's good enough for me.

Is it happening for the right reasons?

What is going through the minds of those people in that moment, when they hear an audio recording of what just happened played back to them?

Are they thinking they're being recorded? Are they nervous? Do they feel threatened? Might they act out on this in an unexpected and perhaps escalating way?

These are why I would not use this app.

Re: STFU

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Post by officeplant »

ecshafer wrote: post #84
tra3 wrote: post #28

In the style of cheap tiktoks: "There are two types of people...". My wife loves listening to her phone on max volume, but it sounds so bad compared to half decent speakers. Also what's up with the people hiking (by themselves) with a bluetooth speaker. You're by yourself, in nature. If you want to listen to music wear headphones!! Also why are people using speaker phones in public places at max volume. The speaker i…

> I'm loving the fact that battery technology will eventually eliminate weed wackers. I've moved to all electric lawn equipment. Snow blower, lawn mower, weed wacker, leaf blower. They all work great, are quieter, and I don't have to deal with carburetors and oil ever again.

Side benefit: Our electric push mower has enough LED lights on it for some reason that I can mow after sunset. I've mowed the grass at 9pm without disturbing anyone and its magic.

Re: STFU

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Post by bpev »

brk wrote: post #33
connorgurney wrote: post #31

I might be in a minority saying this - and particularly so here on HN - but I struggle to understand why you'd be willing to use a tool like this, as OP did, but not to politely ask someone to keep it down?

Have you tried asking many people to "keep it down"? Generally that doesn't end with them politely keeping it down.

I've seen a fistfight on the muni that started from this.

Re: STFU

#167

Post by bonesss »

jonathanstrange wrote: post #130

My personal take is that having phone conversations at normal speaker volume is fine because people also talk amongst each other in public and there is no substantial difference, but watching videos or even listening to music on loud speaker is not okay because it's a public nuisance. However, it seems that the cultural norms differ a lot, I've heard of people who disapprove of almost everything and don't have much s…

There is a substantial difference between people talking amongst themselves and one person on a phone.

Humans are social animals, we tune out conversations easily. Half conversations are just one interrupting, attention-grabbing … jarring start … … after … … … … another. It’s a series of unpredictable spontaneous one-sided outbursts, behaviours that otherwise belong to disturbed individuals.

Listening to people in the phone is inherently more annoying, backed by decent research IIRC.

Re: STFU

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Post by ecshafer »

tptacek wrote: post #92
ecshafer wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have seen fights break out in the subway over people being loud. People playing loud music in public often seem to be the types to be looking for trouble, they want someone to tell them to turn it down, so they can say no and escalate. In a lot of cities this is a big risk.

This app is even more hostile.

The app is more hostile, I agree. Its a bad idea, and a good way to get beaten up.

Re: STFU

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Post by barbecue_sauce »

dylan604 wrote: post #63
mrexroad wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You touched a nerve for me — folks hiking with Bluetooth speakers. My god that grinds my gears. I can see an argument for playing music (at reasonable volume) while relaxing at a camp site, but on the trail it’s as aggravating as a dirt bike or snowmobile ripping along near by.

I've heard many people say the cannot stand they way earbuds feel. Just like many people said they could not breath wearing a mask.

I recommend Koss Porta Pros with Yaxi pads.

Re: STFU

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Post by mystifyingpoi »

achairapart wrote: post #147
cweagans wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There used to be a commercially-made tv-b-gone device. Not sure if it's made anymore, but there's a DIY kit that appears to do the same thing: https://www.adafruit.com/product/73 I used to carry one with me everywhere (it was small enough to fit on a keychain). One night at a sports bar, I showed it to a friend. Before I could stop him, he pushed the button and every TV in the place went black, right in the middle of…

When iPhones still had the headphone port, a friend of mine soldered a IR led on top of a minijack, something like this: https://www.rtfms.com/wp-content/rtfms-com/LED-pinout.png Then, with some special app, or even just playing some audiofiles — I don't remember — he'd do the same thing as the device above.

Wow, this is clever. Yeah, the headphone out can push out a signal like 1 volt at low current, but this is likely enough for the IR LED to "light up". I really like this idea.
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