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Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by luckilydiscrete »

isodev wrote: post #157
muppetman wrote: post #148

I feel like I'm the only person on this site that doesn't use AI for coding. I guess there's probably a lot of other people that haven't commented on this story who don't use it either. But when I read about how much hype and all that sort of stuff there is in the AI industry, and then I see the amount of posts and commentary and deep technical discussion about how this feature has affected people, I'm not so sure. E…

I also don’t use AI for coding. I tried, I explored, I learned how it works. At the end, “maybe-sometimes works” and “sends a copy of all your code to some server in the US” are just incompatible with the kind of software I create. Regarding the post, I think it’s telling that Anthropic is trying to force people into using their per-usage billing more than the subscription. My take is that the subscription offers a l…

I'll say "maybe-sometimes works" is a misunderstanding.

It feels like that initially, but that's no different from any new tool you adopt. A jackhammer also "maybe-sometimes works" as a hammer replacement.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by iamkonstantin »

mgfist wrote: post #149
muppetman wrote: post #148

I feel like I'm the only person on this site that doesn't use AI for coding. I guess there's probably a lot of other people that haven't commented on this story who don't use it either. But when I read about how much hype and all that sort of stuff there is in the AI industry, and then I see the amount of posts and commentary and deep technical discussion about how this feature has affected people, I'm not so sure. E…

I hate how AI is being shoved in most things, but I do love AI in a few of those places (ai coding and google search replacement)

Have you noticed how Google search summaries have taken the shape of those annoying blogposts that take you through several “What is a computer program” explainers before answering the question?

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by casparvitch »

ehsanu1 wrote: post #147
dfabulich wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I know, OpenCode sends (has to send) the same data to Anthropic as Claude Code™ CLI (especially if they're going to successfully imitate CC™ in order to access cheap subscription pricing).

But I doubt you can opt in to them training on that data coming in via OpenCode.

I doubt you can opt out

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by adastra22 »

conception wrote: post #43
creativeSlumber wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A Claude Code subscription should not work with other software. why not though? aren't you paying for the model usage regardless of the client you use?

But they get telemetry, feedback, good will, etc. That’s one reason why usage is discounted to a subscription fee.

They don't get any telemetry or feedback data from me, as I've turned all that off. So why should I be limited to CC?

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by isodev »

luckilydiscrete wrote: post #161
isodev wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also don’t use AI for coding. I tried, I explored, I learned how it works. At the end, “maybe-sometimes works” and “sends a copy of all your code to some server in the US” are just incompatible with the kind of software I create. Regarding the post, I think it’s telling that Anthropic is trying to force people into using their per-usage billing more than the subscription. My take is that the subscription offers a l…

I'll say "maybe-sometimes works" is a misunderstanding. It feels like that initially, but that's no different from any new tool you adopt. A jackhammer also "maybe-sometimes works" as a hammer replacement.

Every prompt is a run of probability - It’s at the core of the technology to be unable to give reproducible responses and even after a while, Claude is just as likely to sneak-in crimes in every snippet it outputs.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by LorenzoGood »

muppetman wrote: post #148

I feel like I'm the only person on this site that doesn't use AI for coding. I guess there's probably a lot of other people that haven't commented on this story who don't use it either. But when I read about how much hype and all that sort of stuff there is in the AI industry, and then I see the amount of posts and commentary and deep technical discussion about how this feature has affected people, I'm not so sure. E…

I feel the same. I don't want to hear about it all the time (although I welcome discussion). I wish this site would go back to talking about other tech things.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by DoesntMatter22 »

ehsanu1 wrote: post #147
dfabulich wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as I know, OpenCode sends (has to send) the same data to Anthropic as Claude Code™ CLI (especially if they're going to successfully imitate CC™ in order to access cheap subscription pricing).

But I doubt you can opt in to them training on that data coming in via OpenCode.

You have already done that when you sign up for an anthropic account

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by ehnto »

what wrote: post #107
ehnto wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a user it is because I can no longer use the subscription with the greater tooling ecosystem. As for Anthropic, they might not want to do this as they may lose users who decide to use another provider, since without the cost benefit of the subscription it doesn't make sense to stay with them and also be locked into their tooling.

The subscription is for their products? If you want to use their models in another product you can pay for the API usage.

From my perspective, I was paying for the model. This is kind of a pointless distinction now though.

It was working and now it isn't, and the outcome is that some of their customers are unhappy and might move on.

API access is not the same product offering as the subscription, so that's probably a practical option but not a comparable one.

Re: Anthropic blocks third-party use of Claude Code subscriptions

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Post by adastra22 »

croes wrote: post #104
transcriptase wrote: post #33

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More evidence the EU solved the wrong problem. Instead of mandating cookie banners, mandate a single global “fuck off” switch: one-click, automatic opt-out from any feature/setting/telemetry/tracking/training that isn’t strictly required or clearly beneficial to the user as an individual. If it’s mainly there for data collection, ads, attribution, “product improvement”, or monetization, it should be off by default an…

Remember what happened do the DNT flag in the browser? They just ignored until it was gone. If you don’t give them a way to trick and annoy you into accept tracking they ignore completely what you want

DNT wasn't actually legally mandated.
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