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Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Government enacted shut down due to protests. I'd like to hear more about how they actually do this. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-cutting-internet-amid-dead...

> Government enacted shut down due to protests Not just protests, it's to prevent foreign interference (like CIA) from fueling civil unrest and spreading AI deepfakes, as seen in Myanmar and Brazil https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb...

or alternatively to shutdown information flowing out just before the killing begins

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2020/11/iran...

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

#162

I'm an Iranian and this protest is very different because it's not about a specific government policy ... It's about the totality of the regime. Unfortunately, government has been following the same old brutal playbook by killing protesters and cutting off the Internet.

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Thats such bollocks. you can't just order up a whole country protest, prolonged protest when you want.

The average person in the street isn't going to protest, risk death and torture because some bloke with a dodgy accent tells them to

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Isn't it possible to jam the starlink receiver?

Destroy the satellites? I mean all that have to do is screw up the trajectory of some of the satellites to cause exponential collisions...

Iran does not have that capability. But that would also be an act of war.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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I hear after the Ukraine war, Starlink became very good at thwarting jamming. I am confident the Iranians are not as sophisticated as the Russians in than front.

The Russians are themselves heavy users of starlink.

Can you provide a source for this claim?

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Black market. We had satellite dishes in Eastern Europe during communism. Bribe some people, shell out some insane amounts of cash and it can be done.

If black market's the only reason that activism/journalism/outside contact is even possible in the country It doesn't seem much of a plan (very sadly, I wish there was) which could be uncensored that much, some other comment pointed this point too but if black market's the case, then they would just hide whoever is using this They would also most likely be very less in amount, journalists etc. But the average person,…

As someone who grew up in late Communist Czechoslovakia, you underestimate the black market. Its capabilities were only comparable to the Secret Police itself (StB in our case).

People in unfree conditions are crafty. Same with information. Suppressed information spreads using underground channels quite quickly.

For example, we knew almost immediately that there was some nuclear disaster in Ukraine even though the official channels didn't say anything for days.

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Apparently a lot of people in the west too are assuming that these protests are fueled by the west. At least that's the most likely explanation for why so many left leaning youth are not supporting Iranians while supporting Palestine. Apparently the fight is not about freedom but about (perceived) whiteness vs non-whiteness

>Apparently the fight is not about freedom but about (perceived) whiteness vs non-whiteness But the Iranians are white. The name Iran is literally derived from "Aryan".

Yeah of course none of this makes sense. And yet it all has real world consequences. It's all incredibly partisan. If one just manages to take a step back and watch this dynamic from outside it all seems so weird: the islamist Iran backs Hamas, Hamas are Palestinians, Palestinians are victimized by Jews, Jews have money, capitalists have money, america is capitalist, america is imperialist, ergo .... Islamist Iran is against capitalist imperialism. The protests are against islamist Iran ergo they are against the fight against capitalist imperialism and thus they don't deserve solidarity, or something like this.

I would really love to hear from somebody who is not supporting the Iran protests to honestly tell me if I misrepresented their position and in which way

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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There's no single mechanism. Iran's internet is diverse at the edge, and bottlenecked at the international gateway. Censorship, throttling, and (presumably) surveillance occurs at both layers. In some cases, also the region matters (Sistan and Baluchistan for example have experienced extended blackouts). In part that heterogeneity is because they still ideally want to keep businesses or VIPs online to mitigate the ec…

> Consequently, the actual means of blocking tends to be on an ISP basis: some will simply drop packets, some will have left certain endpoints open, some will leave international DNS open, etc etc. All that changes when activists notice, exploit the opening, and then the ISP finds out. And then sometimes the TIC (the gateway) will impose blanket limitations or throttling. Your international dns is interesting post, c…

The term you're looking for is "dns tunneling".

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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> Government enacted shut down due to protests Not just protests, it's to prevent foreign interference (like CIA) from fueling civil unrest and spreading AI deepfakes, as seen in Myanmar and Brazil https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb...

I gave this a skim and a keyword search. Note that I'm not familiar with the matter. The article claims that the Rohingya genocide in Myanmar that kicked off in 2017 has been substantively fueled by Facebook propaganda efforts, with strong links to Myanmar's own "security forces" (military) . > it's to prevent foreign interference (like CIA) from fueling civil unrest and spreading AI deepfakes, as seen in Myanmar and…

CIA and Amnesty's claims aside, focus on how social media fuels civil unrest, the real concern is foreign interference, Iran has been a target for a very long time

The US wants a regime change, that's a fact, Trump has been very vocal on the matter, and the NSA has the tools to do what ever it pleases on the internet (e.g., PRISM)

Re: Iran Goes Into IPv6 Blackout

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Sure thing. I’m sure Israel also caused hyperinflation and stopped the rain from falling, right?

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So you think all Iranians are just very stupid simpletons who can be convinced to go risk their lives protesting the government that easily? All because some Israelis told them to?
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