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Re: Firefox extension to redirect x.com to xcancel.com

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Post by Timon3 »

brightball wrote: post #143
Timon3 wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does "a Grok button on every post to real time fact check it" increase your trust, given the obvious and open control Musk has over it? When Grok disagreed with him, he kept saying they'd "fix" it, and that's not to mention that infamous "white genocide" issue. It's undeniable that Musk is using his control to align Grok with his own opinions. How does that not decrease your trust? I can't understand the thought…

Because when I take the time to spot check it more deeply, it's usually pretty accurate and balanced. Having it built right in, free to use makes it convenient. I don't all the time, because that would take forever, but every month or so I'll do a deep dive on the sources of something I'm reading about. Strongly recommend that people periodically do this, especially on topics where you catch yourself having a strong…

Are you checking general topics, or also specifically ones that Musk has "fixed"?

My concern wouldn't so much be that general information is incorrect, but that anything Musk has opinions on - which seems to be a great number of topics, many of which are completely detached from his companies etc. - has an unacceptable chance of being deliberately manipulated. This is easy to spot when he tries to convince people of his "white genocide", but we don't know what other topics he's "fixed", and you specify that you don't verify all the time.

How do you know you're not being fed another "white genocide" if you don't verify? I wouldn't be as concerned with other AIs because we haven't seen as explicit manipulation as we've seen with Grok, but that seems to be explicitly built to distribute Musks opinions.

Re: Firefox extension to redirect x.com to xcancel.com

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

pickleglitch wrote: post #138
brightball wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find the combination of a Grok button on every post to real time fact check it, along with eventual notifications when a Community Note is added to something you previously interacted with goes a long way to making it the most trustable of all social media platforms. I don’t see any similar attempts to transparently live fact check on any other platform.

If you are trusting Grok to "fact check", you have already been bamboozled.

I dunno...

I've seen so many right-wingers self-own themselves when asking Grok to either debunk a left-supporting article or back up a right-supporting one. I've seen people refer to Grok as Elon's Little Nazi Bot, but aside from that one afternoon where it referred to itself as "Mecha-Hitler", that label is far from the truth. Grok tends to actually be pretty factual.

Re: Firefox extension to redirect x.com to xcancel.com

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Post by clgeoio »

neoCrimeLabs wrote: post #126

This is the extension I use: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/redirector/ https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/redirector/ Not only do I translate x.com -> xcancel.com, but - cnn.com -> text.cnn.com - youtube.com -> inv.nadeko.net - instagram.com -> imginn.com And more. Regular expressions allow translations of paths for the redirection, so it does not just happen at the top level.

Care to share your redirects?

Re: Firefox extension to redirect x.com to xcancel.com

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Post by wolvoleo »

hagbard_c wrote: post #33
wolvoleo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately the alternatives aren't much better. Bluesky now does the same BS where they demand an account if you just want to read replies to a tweet or whatever they call that at bluesky. And there is no bskycancel.com yet.

A bigger problem with BS is the rabid and - to use a phrase often used by them - toxic user base which seems to derive energy from pouring its frenzied opinions on whatever Trump, Musk and those in their general surroundings are supposed to be guilty of. If there was ever a case of the pot telling the kettle it is black it is the b.s. pouring out of a substantial fraction of the denizens of BS who have turned the pla…

You're really selling me on bluesky lol. I have no time for toxic masculinity and conservatism.

Though I tend to hang out at fediverse instances that are more lgbt specific and not that political, I'm just sick of politics, I don't believe in democracy anymore since my own country went 30% to the extreme right party. I just hang out with like-minded people and avoid everyone else.

Re: Firefox extension to redirect x.com to xcancel.com

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Post by brightball »

Timon3 wrote: post #161
brightball wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because when I take the time to spot check it more deeply, it's usually pretty accurate and balanced. Having it built right in, free to use makes it convenient. I don't all the time, because that would take forever, but every month or so I'll do a deep dive on the sources of something I'm reading about. Strongly recommend that people periodically do this, especially on topics where you catch yourself having a strong…

Are you checking general topics, or also specifically ones that Musk has "fixed"? My concern wouldn't so much be that general information is incorrect, but that anything Musk has opinions on - which seems to be a great number of topics, many of which are completely detached from his companies etc. - has an unacceptable chance of being deliberately manipulated. This is easy to spot when he tries to convince people of…

I'm 45 years old and I treat every bit of news I read on the internet or otherwise with a large glass of skepticism, whether it came from an AI or anywhere else. My default assumption is that whoever is reporting is pushing an agenda; seldom misreporting facts but often leaving out context that affects framing.

I appreciate Community Notes and Grok for the closest thing to a real-time ability to call it out that exists.

My default AI query on any topic or story is, "Please validate the details of this story and compare to other sources to identify any critical information from other publications that was missing from this source. Highlight those differences."

It gives me a validation, a comparison and helps me to identify the bias/context framing that's going on pretty quickly. I haven't seen many AI sources that can fact check things in real time like Grok can, like Maduro news the other day.

Re: Firefox extension to redirect x.com to xcancel.com

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Post by hagbard_c »

wolvoleo wrote: post #164
hagbard_c wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bigger problem with BS is the rabid and - to use a phrase often used by them - toxic user base which seems to derive energy from pouring its frenzied opinions on whatever Trump, Musk and those in their general surroundings are supposed to be guilty of. If there was ever a case of the pot telling the kettle it is black it is the b.s. pouring out of a substantial fraction of the denizens of BS who have turned the pla…

You're really selling me on bluesky lol. I have no time for toxic masculinity and conservatism. Though I tend to hang out at fediverse instances that are more lgbt specific and not that political, I'm just sick of politics, I don't believe in democracy anymore since my own country went 30% to the extreme right party. I just hang out with like-minded people and avoid everyone else.

Isn't the concept of 'lgbt' (etc.) inherently political? I never come across the acronym without it being bandied around in a political context. Also, being with 'like-minded people' is, again, political just as intentionally trying to interact with people outside your personal bubble. That's what makes it so hard to 'keep out politics' since just about everything has been made political: from what you eat to what you work with to what you read to where you live, where and how you travel, with whom you speak and, yes, your sexual preferences and everything else. What music you listen to, what books you read, what (if any) movies you see, everything.

And no, BS will most likely not be your place. Even if you're welcomed now you'll have to keep walking on eggshells to make sure you never violate the current and every-changing unwritten rules and regulations and dictions and dogmas or you'll be quickly ousted as not being pure enough. Especially if you don't want to talk politics - and with 'talk politics' I mean agree with and verbally support the current thing. If you're one of the ideological puritans who're in the forefront of ousting infidels you'll sooner or later be hoisted on your own petard so the only way to win that game is by not playing it.

Re: Firefox extension to redirect x.com to xcancel.com

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Post by wolvoleo »

forgotpwd16 wrote: post #99
rsynnott wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh, no it doesn't? Threads work fine when logged out on Bluesky (unless a post has been set by the author to logged-in users only, in which case it'll be hidden; this is fairly rare tho).

To add to that, this option only limits visibility on official Bluesky app/website. The data for this post is still available and third-party clients can make use of it. Hence what GP asks already exists: https://skyview.social/ .

Thanks!

Re: Firefox extension to redirect x.com to xcancel.com

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Post by immibis »

hagbard_c wrote: post #123
immibis wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What have they turned it into? Be specific. You say it turned into "what they accuse X of being" but I don't know what that is.

They turned what was supposed to be a refuge from the 'hate' and 'toxic ${subject}' of Musk-owned X into a hive of 'hate' and 'toxic ${subject}', the only difference being that on BS the 'hate' and 'toxicity' is aimed at X, Musk, Trump and those who dare to trespass outside of the desired narrative of the day. BS is for the 'left' what e.g. Gab is for the 'right': an outpost for the looney fringe. On both Gab as well…

I'm still not understanding you.

Re: Firefox extension to redirect x.com to xcancel.com

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Post by wolvoleo »

hagbard_c wrote: post #166
wolvoleo wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're really selling me on bluesky lol. I have no time for toxic masculinity and conservatism. Though I tend to hang out at fediverse instances that are more lgbt specific and not that political, I'm just sick of politics, I don't believe in democracy anymore since my own country went 30% to the extreme right party. I just hang out with like-minded people and avoid everyone else.

Isn't the concept of 'lgbt' (etc.) inherently political? I never come across the acronym without it being bandied around in a political context. Also, being with 'like-minded people' is, again, political just as intentionally trying to interact with people outside your personal bubble. That's what makes it so hard to 'keep out politics' since just about everything has been made political: from what you eat to what yo…

No lgbt is not political. It was made political by our enemies who think they have a say in what consenting adults do in their bedroom.

In lgbt spaces it's much more free for someone to be as they are, the only thing that's not allowed is judging others. No phobias, no ageism etc. And we don't generally talk about politics other than how to survive in the current climate.

I would most equate it with rave culture I think. That openness and acceptance of being different.

Re: Firefox extension to redirect x.com to xcancel.com

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Post by timbit42 »

neoCrimeLabs wrote: post #126

This is the extension I use: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/redirector/ https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/redirector/ Not only do I translate x.com -> xcancel.com, but - cnn.com -> text.cnn.com - youtube.com -> inv.nadeko.net - instagram.com -> imginn.com And more. Regular expressions allow translations of paths for the redirection, so it does not just happen at the top level.

Why does Redirector fog out the background when you add a new redirect? I can't see their example of how to fill it out. Bad UX.
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