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AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by Noaidi »

xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

I am starting to think the last smartphone I bought is the last one I am going to be able to afford unless AI capitalism crashes and burns.

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Post by CivBase »

Waterluvian wrote: post #71
muvlon wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know how everyone arrives at that conclusion when the cost of the subscription services is also going up (as evidenced by the very article we're talking about). People who are renting are feeling this immediately, whereas people who bought their computers can wait the price hikes out for a couple years before they really need an upgrade.

People rent things they can’t afford to own.

Is this true? I'm trying to think of a solid example and I'm drawing blanks.

Apartments aren't really comparable to houses. They're relatively small units which are part of a larger building. The better comparison would be to condominiums, but good luck even finding a reasonably priced condo in most parts of the US. I'd guess supply is low because there's a housing shortage and it's more profitable to rent out a unit as an apartment than to sell it as a condo.

It seems to me that most people rent because 1) they only need the thing temporarily or 2) there are no reasonable alternatives for sale.

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Post by gosub100 »

thrance wrote: post #59
XorNot wrote: post #38

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If capitalism prices me out of owning property, then I've not much use for it.

Billions are already "priced out" of owning property, why do you think you joining them would have any broader impact? EDIT: I don't know why I'm being downvoted. Billions of human beings have absolutely nothing to their names, and they have no power to change things. Because they own nothing. That's a basic fact of our globalized capitalist economy.

The capitalist system depends on having some people below it to exploit, African villagers notwithstanding.

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Post by dewey »

mort96 wrote: post #157
hairofadog wrote: post #70

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As a user of Claude I have been worried about this.

As someone who can't stand these tools, I'm ecstatic. Y'all have been hooked by the early venture-backed "scale up at all cost" period. You're gonna get squeezed so hard once investors start demanding returns on their investments -- and this whole craze is, hopefully, coming to an end.

Maybe don't hold your breath on that. Even if the price for AI tools would double, or tripple...that's still a very small part of the actual cost of an employee.

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Post by infecto »

xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

Computers have never been more powerful. There is less and less of a reason to do annual upgrades. I don’t follow this logic at all. The average consumer does not even need a home computer anymore. Sure if you are upgrading you gaming PC or something similar than your going to feel a bit more of a squeeze but even then it’s not a wild increase in price compared to the hours spent using.

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Post by pc86 »

bluGill wrote: post #152
kllrnohj wrote: post #131

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> TSMC owns 60% of the foundry market. So if China decides to invade Taiwan, that would likely mean ~60% of CPU and GPU manufacturing capacity permanently destroyed at once. While it would certainly be devastating, do note that TSMC has fabs in places that aren't Taiwan. So their entire production wouldn't immediately go offline, and presumably China would still want to keep selling those products and would have an i…

> presumably China would still want to keep selling those products and would have an interest in avoiding destroying those factories It has been hinted by people who might know something that Taiwan has rigged their factories to explode if China invades to ensure China can't get a hold of those factories. I'm not sure if it is true, but it wouldn't be hard to do (the hard part is ensuring the explosives don't go off…

ASML can also disable much of the equipment remotely, from Europe. So even if the buildings aren't actually bombed (they likely would be though), someone presses a button a few thousand miles away and most of it gets bricked anyway.

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Post by walthamstow »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #54
walthamstow wrote: post #21

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> You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription This is here already. A long time ago, maybe even before covid, I asked a table of iPhone-owning friends who pays Apple a monthly sub for storage, and every hand went up. I know you mention home computers, but most of my friends don't have one. Their iPhone is their computer.

As sibling says, the question is too vague. I also pay for icloud, but I store all my things locally on my devices. The point is effortless sync and basic backup (protect pictures from phone theft). I also pay Hetzner for a storage box or whatever it's called, where I regularly send backups of my stuff with restic. One of the sources is a local fat ZFS NAS, which I can access from everywhere via wireguard. Yet, the o…

You're someone who is comfortable in a terminal desktop environment on Linux. What you or I do for storage is irrelevant to the wider consumer market.

Apple's hardware prices mean that millions of people buy the smallest on offer and pay Apple monthly instead. It's a deliberate play for recurring services revenue.

My point is this: would they buy a phone that had virtually-zero free storage and rely solely on iCloud? Probably.

Some of them had 64GB models, in my view they are already doing that!

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Post by Bombthecat »

muvlon wrote: post #55
xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

I don't know how everyone arrives at that conclusion when the cost of the subscription services is also going up (as evidenced by the very article we're talking about). People who are renting are feeling this immediately, whereas people who bought their computers can wait the price hikes out for a couple years before they really need an upgrade.

Netflix says hello lol

Every increasing prices

Password sharing forbidden

Etc etc

And still making more and more money.

People are willing to take a beating if they are entertained and pay a lot more

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Post by pc86 »

zwnow wrote: post #32
mikasisiki wrote: post #27

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It’s possible. Either way, many people literally sleep in a monthly subscription model — rent.

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You have that option, it's called buying a house and getting a mortgage. You just rent from the bank for 30 years first. But you're not thinking x=30 with any responsibility other than writing a check, I bet. If I had to guess, I'd say you want xThere's a reason why a mortgage with very little down payment is a lot more than comparable rent.
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