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Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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Post by stephenr »

lostlogin wrote: post #83
stephenr wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which rear facing "key port" on a Mac are you suggesting should be on the front?

> Which rear facing "key port" on a Mac are you suggesting should be on the front? USB. I used iMacs, mini and pro machines. Any ports in the front would be nice. My m4 mini does have some front ports. It’s less of an issue now with usb-c but the iMac presumably still rear mounts them.

The Mac Studio has two of 6 TB/USB-C ports on the front, and has since inception.

So does the Mac Pro (well technically they're on the top now) and has on most models since the G5 PowerMac 20 years ago; The single model without front/top ports was replaced in 2019.

So does the Mac mini has two front facing ports now.

So your complaint is essentially about the extremely minimalist, consumer-oriented iMac, or maybe older Mac minis.

Ok. Don't buy an iMac or an old Mac mini then.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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Post by 1718627440 »

bmicraft wrote: post #135
lostlogin wrote: post #46

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> whats wrong with usb-a? Which way up it should go.

The side with the holes. That's true for 95% of devices, with one of the few major exceptions being cheap chinese powerbanks

Also the side that has the logo on.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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Post by 1718627440 »

schmuckonwheels wrote: post #58
lostlogin wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> whats wrong with usb-a? Which way up it should go.

PS/2, which USB all but replaced, solved this by visually keying one side of the connector as flat.

And USB solved it by having the logo on the upper side.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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Post by ultratalk »

cake-rusk wrote: post #117

Cars in India don't have this arrow. The inlet is always on the left (passeger) side. I wonder if there is some regulation governing this. Edit: though I have never seen / noticed any cars with the fuel inlet on the driver's side some imported cars may have them. I guess this is a first world problem.

I live in India and what I've noticed is that the position of the "refuel your car" fuel pump icon shows where the inlet is.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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Post by ultratalk »

delaminator wrote: post #123
cake-rusk wrote: post #117

Cars in India don't have this arrow. The inlet is always on the left (passeger) side. I wonder if there is some regulation governing this. Edit: though I have never seen / noticed any cars with the fuel inlet on the driver's side some imported cars may have them. I guess this is a first world problem.

When I lived in India you bought petrol from the petrol station in 2 litre plastic bottles.

People still do this here.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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Post by YeahThisIsMe »

saagarjha wrote: post #159
bmicraft wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The side with the holes. That's true for 95% of devices, with one of the few major exceptions being cheap chinese powerbanks

Which requires being able to see the plug.

As with most plugs that came before it.

Re: James Moylan, engineer behind arrow signaling which side to refuel a car, dies

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Post by cornichon622 »

schmuckonwheels wrote: post #86
unglaublich wrote: post #74

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In the end, these engineers' job is make profit for the company. If the customer allows for all this crap, and still buys cars/fridges/tvs with such horrible UX, then it's the way forward.

>If the customer allows for all this crap You imply they ever had a choice. Companies like Tesla and Rivian pioneered the trend of bringing webshit-as-an-instrument cluster to the mainstream. Other car companies saw dollar signs, rode their coattails and immediately copied it. What is a customer supposed to do? Buy a Mitsubishi Mirage? Build their own instrument cluster?

Well personally I bought a used car which got out of the factory in 2010 and has a gauge cluster which isn't a screen.

I see no reason to buy new instead of used, and I see no reason why I would change my car to a newer one anytime soon.

I agree that automotive engineers do not work for the end customer leading to shittier cars, but I also think that most people are unable to vote with their wallet (or just don't care).

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