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Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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The root cause of the problem is that parents and children need to raise funds for cancer treatment in the first place.

The fact that families have to crowdfund lifesaving care creates the vulnerability but it doesn't force anyone to build an industrialized scam on top of it

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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I have reported these ads to YouTube multiple times, because I tracked down their scam websites, but YouTube didn't delete them anyway. Common pattern they had was: - similar or same domains - same messaging on their website YouTube could have taken action, but it choose not to

What's most depressing is that people like you did the right thing (took the time to investigate and report) and still hit a wall

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Oh its usually accompanied with a chat, here in Germany often times they just need some money to stay the night somewhere. However some just tell you whatever story to get their next high. Whatever floats their boat, to me its just sad that such a rich country doesn't help them while actively making being homeless harder for them. It's almost christmas and really cold out there, I know there are so many people freezi…

Germany does help them, it just requires they either apply for work or prove that they are unfit for work. Not the most pleasant thing to do, sure, but no German is forced to beg on the streets.

> no German is forced to beg on the streets.

This is such an uneducated and entitled comment just showing how little regular people know about this situation in Germany. Its also one of the most commonly used arguments on this topic and its simply not true. Homeless shelters are overcrowded and extremely unhygienic. Our infrastructure isn't made for an ever-growing amount of homeless people. Law, rights and reality sadly grow appart heavily. "Die Tafel" is completely overwhelmed too. This statement might have been true 15 years ago but you should re-educate yourself on the topic.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Strong and prosperous economy built by progressive tax rate that used to tax up to 70% of non-work income, and now tax most of it 27-29% (depending on the corporate taxe of the state). The people who can use loopholes to avoid income taxes also pay reduced consumption tax (they usually pay the 'Use tax' rather than sale tax in the US, and can basically ignore VAT in Europe).

Sure, capitalism isn't perfect. No economic system is, mainly because they're all composed of us semi-evolved chimps. Every economic system has that problem. Getting rid of or severely constraining economic freedoms isn't a solution, it makes it worse.

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Market economy. Capitalism is a name for the bad thing-- "the accumulation of capital by some to the exclusion of others". Those who argue for a market economy usually claim that with their rule, it won't be accumulation of capital by some to the exclusion of others, with them assuring us that there will be free markets and competition. Both actual capitalism, i.e. the bad thing, and this which can plausible be argue…

Even in a pure unadulterated market economy that doesn't publicly fund healthcare you would expect to be able to protect yourself from high-impact low-likelihood events by means of an insurance. I find it hard to describe the US healthcare situation as anything other than a market failure

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Some people seem to exist in a bubble where they believe that nothing bad will ever happen to them or their loved ones, so paying to improve society has no benefit to themselves.

Even if you never personally needed health insurance (which is unrealistic), you’d still benefit from a better, safer, less cut throat society. Same with education. I am more than happy to pay taxes for an education system, even if I do not personally have children.

There are both private and public health care systems. Private care is a complicated scam, the small print is tens of times the contract.

Public health systems vary with country. Private advocates say public sucks, until it is their turn to be scammed.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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If BBC journalists can donate $5 and see the counter move, how are these campaigns not triggering internal red flags?

These campaings? I've paid some minimal cursory attention to 2 pretty randomly chosen charities - once i donated an old car, and another time i thought may be to subscribe to do math tutoring to children, the tutors were unpaid volunteers, and i just looked into what financial info was available for that non-profit ... well after those 2 times i've never even thought about any dealing with any non-profit, etc. and the stories in the news like when a famous radio talk show host would fund raise huge money to be later paid from his non-profit to his vacation ranch business, all in the open daylight, don't surprise me at all or all those stories of Trump's charities.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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post #41

The root cause of the problem is that parents and children need to raise funds for cancer treatment in the first place.

We have over the years raised billions (maybe trillions) for cancer treatments and we seem to have made negligible progress in actually curing cancer. Will it ever succeed? So maybe there is a root cause for your root cause?

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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And Trumps economy is doing well?

Yes, his personal economy is prosperous. Oh, the other one? /s

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/article/the-defini...

Most of his added wealth comes from "crypto" and name licensing.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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post #41

The root cause of the problem is that parents and children need to raise funds for cancer treatment in the first place.

We have over the years raised billions (maybe trillions) for cancer treatments and we seem to have made negligible progress in actually curing cancer. Will it ever succeed? So maybe there is a root cause for your root cause?

That doesn't seem at all right, even misleading, cancer survivability has significantly improved
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