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Re: Elevated errors across many models

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Post by giancarlostoro »

bflesch wrote: post #145
giancarlostoro wrote: post #121

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I don't know if you guys do write ups, but cloudflare's write ups on outages is in my eyes the gold standard the entire industry should follow.

Cloudflare deploys stuff on Fridays, and it directly affected shopify, one of their major ecommerce customers. Until they fix their internal processes all writeups should be seen as purely marketing material.

I absolutely see it as marketing, and it is effective because I still appreciate the write ups. Arguably any publicly traded company should be letting their investors know more details about outages.

Re: Elevated errors across many models

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Post by tgtweak »

There really should be an http header dedicated to "outage status" with a link to the service outage details page... clients (for example, in this case, your code IDE) could intercept this and notify users.

503 is cool and yes, there is the "well if it's down how are they going to put that up" but in reality most downtimes you see are on the backend and not on the reverse proxies/gateways/cdns where it would be pretty trivial to add a issues/status header with a link to the service status page and a note.

Re: Elevated errors across many models

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Post by tgtweak »

I trust companies that immediately and regularly update their status/issues page and follow up any outages with proper and comprehensive post-mortems. Sadly this is becoming the exception these days and not the norm.

Re: Elevated errors across many models

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Post by embedding-shape »

tgtweak wrote: post #162

There really should be an http header dedicated to "outage status" with a link to the service outage details page... clients (for example, in this case, your code IDE) could intercept this and notify users. 503 is cool and yes, there is the "well if it's down how are they going to put that up" but in reality most downtimes you see are on the backend and not on the reverse proxies/gateways/cdns where it would be prett…

Something something if everyone used HATEOS this wouldn't have been a problem something something

Re: Elevated errors across many models

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Post by KronisLV »

AnotherGoodName wrote: post #63
tcdent wrote: post #32

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I use it as much as my brain can handle and I never exceed my Max plan quota.

Just a warning for those not on the max plan; if you pay by the token or have the lower tier plans you can easily blow through $100s or cap your plan in under an hour. The rates for paying by the token are insane and the scaling from pro to max is also pretty crazy. They made pro have many times more value than paying per token and then they made max again have 25x more tokens than pro on the $200 plan. It’s a bit li…

They should publish the token limits not just talk about conversations or what average users can expect: https://support.claude.com/en/articles/11145838-using-claude...

For comparison’s sake, this is clear: https://support.cerebras.net/articles/9996007307-cerebras-co...

And while the Cerebras service is pretty okay, their website otherwise kinda sucks - and yet you can find clear info!

Re: Elevated errors across many models

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Post by pstuart »

exe34 wrote: post #157
pstuart wrote: post #59

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My poorly informed hope is that that we can have mixture of experts with highly tuned models on areas of focus. If I'm coding in language Foo, I only care about a model that understands Foo and its ecosystem. I imagine that should be self-hostable now.

my suspicion is that this is not how intelligence works. creativity comes from cross breeding ideas from many domains.

Sure, but in the context I was considering, creativity itself wasn't a concern.

For coding, creativity is not necessarily a good thing. There are well established patterns, algorithms, and applications could reasonably be construed as "good enough" to assist with the coding itself. Adding a human language model over that to understand the user's intents could be considered an overlay on the coding model.

I confess that this is willful projection of my hope to be able to self-host agents on affordable hardware. A frontier model on powerful hardware would always be preferable but sometimes "good enough" is just that.

Re: Elevated errors across many models

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Post by exe34 »

pstuart wrote: post #166
exe34 wrote: post #157

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my suspicion is that this is not how intelligence works. creativity comes from cross breeding ideas from many domains.

Sure, but in the context I was considering, creativity itself wasn't a concern. For coding, creativity is not necessarily a good thing. There are well established patterns, algorithms, and applications could reasonably be construed as "good enough" to assist with the coding itself. Adding a human language model over that to understand the user's intents could be considered an overlay on the coding model. I confess th…

I want to self-host too, but I've spent the last few weeks playing with Claude code on my hobby projects - it solves abstract problems with code, and gives actionable reviews, whereas qwen code with qwen3-coder-480 seems to just write simple code and gives generic feedback.

Re: Elevated errors across many models

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Post by exe34 »

teaearlgraycold wrote: post #158
exe34 wrote: post #45

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I think it's possible, but the current trend is that by the time you can run x level at home, they have 10-100x in the frontier models, so if you can run today's Claude.ai at home, then software engineering as a career is already over.

You can run quite powerful models at home on a maxed out Mac Studio. The difference between those and SoTA is more like 2x.

just had a quick look, but at this price, I could have Claude pro for 62 years...

Re: Elevated errors across many models

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Post by teaearlgraycold »

exe34 wrote: post #168
teaearlgraycold wrote: post #158

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You can run quite powerful models at home on a maxed out Mac Studio. The difference between those and SoTA is more like 2x.

just had a quick look, but at this price, I could have Claude pro for 62 years...

Yes but you don't have the same level of privacy, agency, and control with Claude.

I wouldn't pay for it for myself but I can see employers considering it.

Re: Elevated errors across many models

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Post by cdelsolar »

bdangubic wrote: post #124
cdelsolar wrote: post #99

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Claude code cut me off a few days ago and I _seriously_ had no idea what to do. I’ve been coding for 33 years and I suddenly felt like anything I did manually would be an order of magnitude slower than it had to be.

you can’t say things like this on HN these days :)

last time (not on here) someone sent me a blog article saying essentially that coding with coding agents is worthless and if you say you've built anything useful with it, that you're _lying_.
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